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Our body, once we love our body as
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we do our body the worst disservice.

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It's constantly working.

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I believe our mind and our
body work together to serve

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our higher purpose, right?

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But right now, the mind has kind
of taken control of the gig.

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Today, we are speaking
with DeBorah Bellony.

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She is the founder of WHO I Am
Communications, she's the author of

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two books and she's working on a third.

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DeBorah, could you please
introduce yourself?

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And let people know just a
little more about you, please.

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Okay.

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My name is DeBorah Bellony, I was
born in the US to Caribbean parents.

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My, my mother's Mantega,
my father's from Dominica.

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I'm the youngest of four
siblings and the only girl.

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And I, I'm an author, astrologer,
conscious co-creation coach, and

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I have a very unique and winding
road to the path that took me to

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this place where I'm at today.

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Um, so before I even get started, I
just wanna start with two quotes to

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express how unique that path was.

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The first quote would be from Mark Twain
who says, uh, The two most important days

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of your life is the day you were born and
the day you found out why you were born.

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And, um, as astrologer, I really,
I feel that's so important.

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Um, we're all, we are all, we
all, we, we don't realize how

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much we are one with nature.

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You know, we look at plants,
you plant a seed in the, in the

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ground, it grows and so forth.

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And we're all, we're all made of
the same stuff that, of stars.

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So if we're made of stars, that
means we're seeded to do something.

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And I think, to give you an analogy,
people understand if someone like,

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who's a musician or an athlete,
they could go as far as maybe

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playing elementary or high school.

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Some people go as far
as playing in college.

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Other people, um, play music regionally
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nationally and then internationally.

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Um, we kind of understand
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progress or that potential.

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But there's also that same seed
for people who are star seeded to

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do stuff that are not as common,
like spiritual growth, you know?

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And, uh, I think for those people,
life is a little harder because

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it's not, um, consensus reality
in terms of what, what it is.

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Or they may not even know, they
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what other people are doing.

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And they're not seeded to
do this different thing.

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And the moment you realize why you
are here, it's just like, oh my gosh.

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Now I understand why I am a, I'm
a swan and not a duck, you know?

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So that's the first quote, and it's
leading up, the second quote is, um, I

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love this quote, it's called, While we're
playing checkers, God is playing chess.

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And basically what that means is that,
okay, if you look at the, the chess

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board, it's the same board whether
you're playing checkers or chess.

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But you can look at checkers
as being like a lower mind, you

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just hopping over the other one.

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This is what I want, this is how I
want things to go, as the lower mind.

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Whereas when you are on the chess
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our guides, and God kind of knows
why we're here, we kind of forgot.

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Um, you start off as a
pawn, but guess what?

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You could evolve to become a knight,
or a king, or what have you, but the

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path is long and we go on that path.

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And I think that's what happened to me.

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I wanted, I started off, I played
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I graduated from undergrad from,
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I went, um, played in
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Then I wanted to, um,
to be, uh, a publisher.

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I went to NYU to learn book and magazine
publishing and that's what I was gonna do.

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And then after that I went
to graduate school to learn,

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um, nonprofit administration.

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And then I thought that was what I
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United Fund and different nonprofits.

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And I got disheartened from that.

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It's like, and then I went, uh, left all
of that, I studied acupuncture in Sri

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Lanka and um, homeopathy and I loved that.

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But it was, just like the
needles, there was something more.

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So I was again, on another search.

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Then I ended up working at the University
of Creation Spirituality in Oakland.

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And then I ended up working
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in Scottsdale, Arizona.

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And it's not that all of these
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they were steps along the way.

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I remember hearing from one quote that
said, What if all of the life's challenges

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is not because you're doing anything
wrong, but it's that you're being prepared

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to be initiated to another level that,
you know, that transcends a lot of things.

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When you look at someone like Pele
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it doesn't matter what religion
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you are my Pele in one generation.

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I have a young, my, my, um, best friend's,
um, uncle, he loves Pele because he has,

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uh, evolved in his sport to that level.

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And I think, um, when we understand
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which I had to find out in 2012.

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Um, and we'll talk more about that,
but I'll give you a chance to, uh,

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to ask me some questions on that.

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DeBorah, you are a very deep person after
looking through and researching you.

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You are very active in many, uh,
things to advocate for people.

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One of the things that you talk
about is conscious co-creation.

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I'm really interested in that,
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in what you mean by that.

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Could you explain to us what that means?

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Yes.

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So basically we are always co-creating
with the Creator of all there is.

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Like when we say we eat a meal, do we
go through and digest every bit of it?

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Or when a, a woman has a baby,
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but they're co-creating it.

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It's like the face, the
fashion, all of that.

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So, we're always co-creating
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So our life, the way it is, whether we
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it's what we've been co-creating with
our thoughts, our ideas, and so forth.

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The things that we say that
we're not aware of, we're

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co-creating it every moment.

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It doesn't just stop with the
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your thoughts and your emotions.

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So to co-create consciously means that
you understand the power of the word I am.

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Whatever comes after I am is
a powerful word of causation.

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So to consciously co-create, there are
certain laws that are around that help us

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to understand that we are co-creating with
the Creator what there is of our reality.

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And I think if people understood that, I
mean, most people, we don't believe that.

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It's just, just words.

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Because we've had so much
heartbreaks in our lives.

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I talk about that in, um, my book.

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The four, um, isms that, because
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energy, so many, so much powerful,
more than the mind, right?

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But we block that power when
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And the three places in life I feel
that we've all had some heartbreaking

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away from each direction in every way
is the isms that I focus on, which

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is, uh, racism, sexism, and ageism.

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You know, those are the like
generational age discrimination,

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um, gender wise, and race.

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Those are the, those are the
three that I think because it's

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so elusive in our society, these
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It doesn't matter how, or from
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all affected by these things.

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And, um, because of that, we lose a lot
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So part of my journey that started in
2012 when I started, like I was saying

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before the breakup, that I did all these
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wasn't until 2012 when I really found
out what I was really star seeded to do.

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And I mean, I ran from, when I was
working, when I was living in Arizona,

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working at the Astrological Institute, I
remember, um, that we used to have to do,

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it was the first accredited program for
astrology and psychology in the world.

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I remember there was people like
at Dateline 2020 saying, How can we

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take government money for astrology?

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That's not even a credible
field and all of that.

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And I remember, and you
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It was illegal to even practice it.

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So now we have this accredited program.

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I ended up there serendipitously
through my travels, they needed a

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development officer and my graduate
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So I ended up, um, at the time
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I was at, I was working at Changing
Hand bookstore and someone came

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in and said, You know, there's a
creditor program for astrologists.

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So I ended up going and serendipitously
they needed some of my skills.

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So I ended up being able to take classes
and, and I learned a lot about it.

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But, um, almost, I lost my
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I was saying, but um, yeah.

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So I found out that, that who, when
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um, events and, you know, to get
students to become astrologers, they

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used to laugh us out the building.

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You know, when they have these
fairs for students to come to.

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Um, so in my, in the back of my
mind, who wants to be in a, a field

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that is looked down upon, right?

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So I got into other things, you know,
I went to the writing and everything.

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But it's really what I
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It's just that it wasn't
popular, you know what I mean?

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And so twenty years later
I come back full circle.

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That was like in 2002, I
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And then I ended up going
all, all these other things.

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But the universe put me in the right place
when I was in Mexico and it took me six

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cities to get there, it was a long path.

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And I talk about it in my blog.

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But I thought I was going there
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language, ended up house sitting.

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And that's when in 2012, a lot of
people don't realize, you know, how

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the Mayan prophecies they talked about
the end of the world in 20, 2012.

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That's what people, that was the
sense of, sense of, you know,

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sense it, what's that word?

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Like sensationalism about what happened.

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But if people really look
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got their mission in 2012.

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It shifted direction in 2012, and it had
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A lot of people at that time,
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realize, the Mayan calendar didn't
say it was the end of the world.

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It was end of an era.

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And what also happened in 2012
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happens every 150 years, which
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Where the, the, the, Venus goes
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That happens in pairs, and it happens
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Now Venus also has a eight year cycle.

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So when you take 2012 and you add
eight, what does that give you?

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What year does that give you?

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2020? Is that, is that correct?

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What does, what does that tell
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The world shut down.

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So, so it's like nothing happens, like
people think, oh, that was nothing.

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'Cause they didn't see
anything happen at that moment.

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But everything is a progression.

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We're talking about the
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Not the end of the world,
just the end of a major cycle.

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So if people were reading the
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time that wasn't out yet.

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Eight years later, when Venus completed
its eight year cycle, it came in 2012.

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You know, so I think we're so, we're so
used to the quick thing that happened

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that we think like, oh, nothing's happened
because it didn't happened yesterday,

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like everybody said it would, you know?

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So, so there's that.

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And, and in 2012 is when I
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I call it the, um, the reluctant
astrologer journey to revealing

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the mega, the, um, Maggi mysteries.

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So there's a system called the
Destiny Cards, which was preserved

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in the regular playing cards, I've
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But it wasn't until 2012 when I started
to get all these other downloads.

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How it's connected to math and how it's
connected to so many different things.

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And it's been a thirteen year
journey just getting used to all

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the things about what the system
really means, it's just amazing.

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And I was a reluctant astrologer in
that because it was so much of my time,

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so much of my sacrifices I had to do.

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Um, at the time I wasn't working
like I had to live what I call

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the Buckminster Fuller's life.

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Are you familiar with Buckminster Fuller?

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I am not.

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Buckminster Fuller was,
is a, an architect.

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He was an architect that was known for
making the geodesic dome that you see in

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Oh, okay.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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And he, he's been, he's been known
to have some very great quotes.

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Like, You don't change things by,
um, looking at where they're at.

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You make a better model and
make the other model obsolete.

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I know you've probably
heard of that quote.

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He's, um, known for that, you know,
Humanity Is In It's 11th Hour, you know?

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But a lot of what people don't know about,
about Mr. Fuller is that he, he lived a

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life where he was ready to commit suicide.

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He was, um, he, he got kicked out
of Harvard, um, you know, he just

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felt his life was a, a failure.

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At one time, he was just like,
I'm just gonna take my life.

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But the universe was like,
no, we got work for you.

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And he's like, Well, if you're gonna make
it happen, it's just gonna have to happen.

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So he lived a life, what I think
was so amazing is that it's

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more, I could appreciate more.

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'Cause he had, he had a wife and children.

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But he's like, the money
comes, it's gonna happen.

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If it doesn't come, it doesn't happen.

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And that's how he lived his life.

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If it wasn't, the money didn't show up,
it showed up when it needed to show up.

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So that's what I had to do back
in 2012, I had to live this

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life of just complete surrender.

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And I remember I have a friend
that kind of lived like that.

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She's a famous actor who just recently
passed, um, Barbara O. And I'm like, Oh,

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I can never live like, I need to know
where my money's coming from, I got to.

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And little did I know while I was
playing checkers, universe was

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playing chess, lining me up to where
I needed to be, to get what I needed

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to get, to do what I need to do.

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And, and that's life, you know?

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So, um, I just wanted to share that.

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Yeah.

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It, it's strong and powerful.

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You know, when we line up the stars,
if you will, we, we just happen.

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And, and it's, I, I'm Christian and I have
been watching for these certain signs in

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the stars for as long as I can remember
because these signs tell us things and I,

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I really believe wholeheartedly in that.

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I, I'm not a master in the craft
at all, but I do understand there

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are signs and I, I do understand
what signs we're looking for.

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Can I spot those?

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Not really.

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And look at the three wise men.

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Exactly.

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So, you know?

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Yeah.

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The three, the three wise men learned.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It, it's all by inspiration anyway.

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And you know, I think it, it's really
going into the next subject that

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I wanted to speak with you about.

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You speak of the veil of illusion.

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You know, I, I think, in our world
today, we're full of disillusion.

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And I, I really think that we're
veiled with illusion, if you will.

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We're covered with it.

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So, did I misunderstand
what you mean by that?

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Or what are you talking about when
you speak of the veil of illusion?

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Okay, so

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there, how do I, how would I say that?

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There's so much that I've
learned on my path, you know?

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Um, I'll use an example of my own mother.

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My mother, she was a member
of the Rosicrucian Society.

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I knew it when I was growing
up, but I was on my own path.

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And I thought all these
people, they dunno anything.

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Blah, blah, blah.

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But once she passed away and I
happened to see her books, not only

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was she a Rosicrucian, she was at
the highest degree of Rosicrucian.

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She was at the 12th level.

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When I saw that and when I looked at the
stuff that she had, I, my mouth dropped.

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'Cause I was like, here, I thought my
mom was just, you know, Catholic, Seventh

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Day Adventist, she's doing this and that.

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And then little did I know she was,
uh, privy to so much information.

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And I started to, that was
the biggest gift she gave me.

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Because I like to use this
analogy, I use this a lot.

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I talk about, there's two types of being
and there's two states of being, okay?

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The two types of being are, the two states
of being I should start with are, asleep.

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When you're asleep,
you don't hear nothing.

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And the other state of
being is being awake, right?

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Um, if you're asleep and someone
is talking to you about financial

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problems or whatever, whatever the
thing is, you are not hearing anything.

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It's going through one ear
and out 'cause you're asleep.

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Now we all have states of asleep and
awake and the other two states of

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being are initiated and uninitiated.

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And we, we all are awake and
initiated in certain areas of our

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life and asleep and uninitiated
in other areas of our life, right?

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And interestingly enough, the
two play off of each other.

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Sometimes it takes the ones who
are asleep to initiate the ones who

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are woke and, um, and vice versa.

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So now I'll give you an
example of my mother.

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When my mom passed, uh, I realized
she didn't have, not one cent.

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I knew the importance of like leaving
a financial legacy, but when I had

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to go through my mom's stuff when
she passed and five times I saw

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life insurance policies that she let
lapse, I was like, and I had to come

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to the realization she had nothing.

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And, um, that, uh, woke me to the
importance of leaving a financial legacy.

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However, I'm now going through
the initiation, through my

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star seeded way of doing it.

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Not the way that society says make
money this way, that way, that way.

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I'm now going through the initiation
of knowing how important it is

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to leave a financial legacy.

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And my path is quite
interesting, is quite telling.

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But just like Buckman Fuller, when he was
ready to give it up, he just trusted the

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process and it landed him to be one of
the most popular and beloved people in

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the nonprofit world, architectural world.

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So, um, I don't know if I answered
your question, so I hope I did.

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but that's,

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Well regardless, DeBorah,
that was on my list.

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You know, that very thing about your
mother and the legacy building, you

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know, it's really important for people
to understand that some things trigger

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us to understand why we're here.

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And sometimes, you know, for instance,
myself, I, I feel like I'm walking this

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lonely road, but there's so many with me.

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And, and it's interesting that
it, it took disaster in my life

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to spark that road of discovery.

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Because I was stupid, I was just
lost, and I was stumbling around

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in life just hoping for the best to
come my way instead of initiating it.

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And, you know, baby stepping
what I want into existence.

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Because sometimes we start late in life
and then, then we discover, Oh, I wish

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I could have started this way back here.

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But is that going to stop
us from that calling?

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And I can tell that you have
this calling and a gift.

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So another thing that you talk
about is Will Allen and Karen

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Parker and not ever giving up.

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I think that falls right into line with
what we are talking about here, is it not?

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Yes, yes.

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They had The Growing Power.

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And I mean, it was, it was so,
I mean, it's amazing how that

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thing lasted for twenty years.

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But, um, dysfunction and all of that,
it's still, it was something I learned

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about not giving up that's so important
because, um, you could be half an hour,

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a half a minute away from a miracle if
you just stay consistent to the goal.

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And, um, again, to like the chess and the
checkers, you start off as a pawn, right?

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But with time you can learn how to
get to the other side of that board.

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It's almost as if to say, when you
look at the relationship with God and

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man, God comes down in man, man in man.

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So that man could rise up to become God.

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So God becomes man, so
man could become God.

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This is the evolution.

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Just like you see water going down
and up, and this is the evolution

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that we're all star seeded to do.

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This is something, and now some people,
they may not go all the way, like I

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said, to the international level of,
of sportsmanship or musician where you

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could just be known by your first name,
Sting, Prince, and if everybody does,

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it doesn't matter what nationality
they are, that's how we need to grow.

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No one doubts that a baby
will one time walk and grow

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and have children of his own.

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We know that that's its seeded potential.

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But guess what?

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If we're only using 10% of our brain, what
kind of potential do we have to evolve to

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and what potential have we fallen from?

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So it's like there's so
much more to evolve to, but

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there's the consensus reality.

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And to be initiated means that there's
gonna be a lot of people who are asleep

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that are gonna be knocking you all
upside your head so that you could be

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initiated, to awaken that part of you.

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And they'll go through the
same thing, and we're all going

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through it in cycles and cycles.

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One of the, I'm just gonna read
one of my famous quotes from

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George Washington Carver, and I
see how important it is in life.

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He says, How far you go in life depends
on your being tender with the young,

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compassionate, compassionate with the
aged, sympathetic with the striving,

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tolerant of the weak and strong.

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Because someday in your life you will
have been all of these things, okay?

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We would've been all of these things.

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And so when I look at people at
whatever stage they're in, it's

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not for me to worry because I
understand, I believe in past life.

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And I believe the true Christians were the
Essenes, they believed in reincarnation

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in their doctrine.

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So, um, even in the, in the
more ancient form of, of, uh,

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of Christianity, there was this
understanding of, of reincarnation.

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I mean, we don't get it in one life.

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We don't learn all what we learn
in one grade, we go to 10th,

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12th, college, on and on and on.

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And so when we understand that, we
understand there's two forces in life.

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There's forces going
down and going back up.

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There's this constant
evolution of cycles of growth.

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And, uh, once we understand
that, we understand where

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we're at in that, that pattern.

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We don't knock anybody else,
whether it be apparent.

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It's all needed in order for us to be
exactly where we're at any given time.

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Yeah, I like that a lot.

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You know, the, the cycles like that,
those dark times, when we're going

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down, it really lightens us, it
lightens our load because it crushes us.

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And it really makes us able to get back
up without all of the debris on us.

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And it, it, it's funny how things
do line up in this universe.

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The world is part of this great
big energy and there's so,

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so much hatred in our world.

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And, and I'm, I, I really look at that
a lot in my life and I, I, I have went

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through those cycles of hatred myself
and I wonder why do we have to hate

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before we can figure out what love is?

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Have you got any answers so far?

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Uh, I've gotten a lot of answers
and, uh, uh, the meaning is

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really not clear yet to me.

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But I, I do understand it's more
about humanity and all of us as a

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completeness and a wholeness, but
I don't see how it all comes back

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together to that greatness yet.

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I, I know it's going to.

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So what I talk about in my
book, I use the analogy, I use

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this analogy in my book, okay?

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So imagine you have two people, they
just married and they're in love.

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They got a beach resort.

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They're looking outside on their
patio and they're looking at the

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night sky and they see a beautiful
falling star go down like that.

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They're like, Wow, that's so amazing.

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Amazing to them, but if you happen
to be life on that planet and you are

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on that planet, it's hell and mayhem.

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Because that's a whole end of a
civilization of that star dying, right?

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So what it is, is you have to,
we have to raise our perspective

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of what, of how we see things.

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You know, I have a quote I say, When we
focus on the they, we're all gonna pay.

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Because it's all God.

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And that's the title of my
third book, It's All God.

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And it's the generator, operator,
destroyer, these are the three modes

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of, of creation, going through creation.

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It's the same way, like if you have a
phone, um, and the battery runs out,

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you have to put it on dark, plug it
in, and let it recharge so that it

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could come back another day, you know?

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Um, when it's light, one place
is dark in another place.

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And this polarity is something that
these people in these so called

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societies and everything understand.

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They understand that polarity is
how everything stays in existence.

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You know, you need night
and you need day, you know?

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And so once you understand that,
that's part of a bigger cycle.

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The crap that we eat, it goes
back in compost and it comes

444
00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:49,650
back and it feeds us one day.

445
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,280
If we understand life as a journey
of that sort, we understand

446
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,720
that there's constant movement.

447
00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:59,280
And even though now we're dark, another
day, you know, it's gonna rise, you know?

448
00:28:59,730 --> 00:29:04,080
So we just, I think astrology helps
with that because we understand

449
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,450
where we're at in our personal
evolution when we understand it.

450
00:29:07,450 --> 00:29:11,595
But see, I have a way that I look at
astrology and I think this is important.

451
00:29:11,655 --> 00:29:13,815
'Cause now that astrology's
becoming more popular,

452
00:29:14,415 --> 00:29:16,605
I think it had a bad rap before.

453
00:29:16,605 --> 00:29:18,795
And if other people are practicing
in a way, oh, this means you're

454
00:29:18,795 --> 00:29:20,535
gonna, doomsday this, that.

455
00:29:20,685 --> 00:29:24,615
It's like people wanna run from
astrology, they don't wanna hear bad news.

456
00:29:24,675 --> 00:29:28,875
But the way, I, I, I talk about two
analogies, how I look at astrology.

457
00:29:30,345 --> 00:29:33,255
I look at it like you
have a farmer, right?

458
00:29:33,795 --> 00:29:37,515
They know what seed to plant, they know
what seed is, they know what time is the

459
00:29:37,515 --> 00:29:40,755
best to plant it, and they know what,
how much time it takes to plant the seed.

460
00:29:41,235 --> 00:29:47,295
But that farmer is useless if she
doesn't till the soil, plant the seed,

461
00:29:47,685 --> 00:29:49,875
water it, nurture it, take care of it.

462
00:29:50,265 --> 00:29:53,805
You see, it's just that
information is not gonna help

463
00:29:53,805 --> 00:29:56,325
that person if they don't use it.

464
00:29:56,325 --> 00:29:59,425
It's not what Astrology's going
to use, well, how you're using it.

465
00:29:59,425 --> 00:30:01,995
And then you have the example
of a doctor, you know?

466
00:30:02,475 --> 00:30:07,830
She's a surgeon, a surgeon goes into
the operation room, what does she wear?

467
00:30:07,860 --> 00:30:09,420
Does she wear a police outfit?

468
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:14,340
No, she doesn't put on a police
outfit, she puts on scrubs because

469
00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:20,580
that's the best outfit to do that
job that she was star seeded to do.

470
00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:27,996
Does the scrubs, does the scrubs make her
a doctor or does a doctor make the scrubs?

471
00:30:28,495 --> 00:30:28,955
You see?

472
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:36,480
So once we understand that, we understand
that, to be a conscious co-creator, so

473
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,780
understanding the journey and your life
path and your cycles to make better

474
00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:44,280
choices is half, and that's another way I
look at it, it's to make better choices.

475
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:47,850
It's just not to know your life path
and make the same old dumb mistakes.

476
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,940
It's sort of like once you know
your life path, you have a light

477
00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:55,040
bill and you have a, uh, a gas
bill, you forgot which one to pay.

478
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:57,780
The gas bill was due, but
you paid the light bill.

479
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,440
Well, guess what?

480
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,990
Your gas is going to be out
because you didn't pay the

481
00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:02,490
right bill at the right time.

482
00:31:02,895 --> 00:31:07,395
So there's times when we need to focus
on certain things and when we focus on it

483
00:31:07,395 --> 00:31:10,125
at that time, we get the benefits of it.

484
00:31:10,515 --> 00:31:14,445
But to distill the work of clearing
the mental and emotional blockages.

485
00:31:14,445 --> 00:31:18,705
So now I'm gonna get to the crux of
what I experienced in 2012 is that when

486
00:31:18,705 --> 00:31:22,995
I was there and I was house sitting
for like thirteen years there and

487
00:31:23,145 --> 00:31:26,685
I had to clear a lot of mental and
emotional blockages that stopped me.

488
00:31:26,715 --> 00:31:29,955
I must have went through like
over twenty different techniques

489
00:31:29,955 --> 00:31:31,065
of healing and whatnot.

490
00:31:31,455 --> 00:31:34,785
But to know is just half
the battle as GI Joe says.

491
00:31:34,845 --> 00:31:39,795
The other half is to clear those
subconscious blocks that prevent us

492
00:31:39,795 --> 00:31:41,865
from living out our natural nature.

493
00:31:42,225 --> 00:31:45,435
We are not our sign, we're
not our heart or our sign.

494
00:31:45,585 --> 00:31:49,725
We are our, as, uh, divine
essence of the Creator within us.

495
00:31:49,935 --> 00:31:51,165
We're an expression of that.

496
00:31:51,195 --> 00:31:55,905
However, because we have all
these blockages, I wanna know what

497
00:31:55,905 --> 00:31:59,295
is stopping us from expressing
that, that divinity within us.

498
00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:01,375
And that's where astrology can help.

499
00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:05,130
If it could help, you know,
in terms of how it's practiced

500
00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:06,210
and how people approach it.

501
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:07,320
Yeah.

502
00:32:07,690 --> 00:32:14,400
Well, well, cycles, everything is
a cycle and we, we, if we're aware

503
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,150
of that, it, it goes well for us.

504
00:32:18,510 --> 00:32:25,320
You know, my cousin used to tell us all
the time, the seven Ps. Proper Prior

505
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,990
Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

506
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:34,530
And I think that's really important
for people to plan properly and

507
00:32:34,530 --> 00:32:36,240
understand what they're planning.

508
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:42,600
And a lot of us, we, we
go through life without

509
00:32:44,805 --> 00:32:46,905
a cause per se.

510
00:32:47,504 --> 00:32:54,014
You know, we're, we're stumbling and
we, we are chasing somebody else's dream

511
00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:58,004
because we see this person doing that.

512
00:32:58,034 --> 00:33:02,264
So we think we should do
that, so we can fit that.

513
00:33:02,895 --> 00:33:06,014
And that's not best for us.

514
00:33:06,044 --> 00:33:14,595
We, we really should understand what
passion is and understanding how to

515
00:33:14,595 --> 00:33:18,254
attach ourselves to that passion.

516
00:33:18,675 --> 00:33:26,235
Because you, you call it star seeding,
but you do have a, you do have a

517
00:33:26,235 --> 00:33:28,935
calling and I can guarantee it.

518
00:33:29,115 --> 00:33:34,125
It may come later in life,
it might come early in life.

519
00:33:34,125 --> 00:33:35,175
We don't know that.

520
00:33:35,264 --> 00:33:39,225
But there's a time, a place,
and a reason for that.

521
00:33:39,225 --> 00:33:42,885
I do 100% believe that.

522
00:33:43,305 --> 00:33:43,935
So

523
00:33:44,835 --> 00:33:47,415
Yeah, it's like, oh, sorry.

524
00:33:47,445 --> 00:33:52,995
Well, well go ahead because I, I
was just gonna end with how do we

525
00:33:53,415 --> 00:34:00,345
understand that calling and how
do we avoid missing the calling?

526
00:34:01,755 --> 00:34:05,085
So, um, I mean,

527
00:34:07,665 --> 00:34:11,835
astrology helps with understanding it, but
not everybody's gonna have access to that.

528
00:34:12,165 --> 00:34:14,295
So life is just, is gonna teach us.

529
00:34:14,475 --> 00:34:17,805
I think it would be cool if we thought
that this was the only life and that,

530
00:34:18,525 --> 00:34:21,735
and I know this, I don't know how
people believe in reincarnation, but

531
00:34:21,975 --> 00:34:25,545
even if it wasn't the only life, um,

532
00:34:27,555 --> 00:34:29,145
we're always gonna go back.

533
00:34:30,345 --> 00:34:33,495
We're always gonna have different
opportunities to, to do it.

534
00:34:33,495 --> 00:34:37,845
So I don't, I'm not one person who says
like, I'm thankful for all my experiences.

535
00:34:38,235 --> 00:34:41,535
All the wrong things, all the things
that's happened that's not so good.

536
00:34:41,535 --> 00:34:46,425
And if they're all, they're all
informing me of who I could still

537
00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:48,855
be, because that doesn't change
what you're star seeded to do.

538
00:34:49,215 --> 00:34:51,945
It may not happen when you're this,
so I wish it would've happened, but

539
00:34:51,945 --> 00:34:56,175
maybe there's all these points along
the way is what you needed to get.

540
00:34:56,535 --> 00:35:00,525
So that, like for example, you
have two cars that are brand new.

541
00:35:01,035 --> 00:35:03,585
They're both brand new, they've
been put through the whole thing.

542
00:35:03,975 --> 00:35:09,345
And one was not put on the trial
test and the other one was put on

543
00:35:09,345 --> 00:35:14,175
for a trial test to see, you know,
on the road, which one would you buy?

544
00:35:15,605 --> 00:35:19,520
Would you buy the one that wasn't tested
or would you buy the one that was?

545
00:35:21,180 --> 00:35:23,445
The one with the safety testing.

546
00:35:23,895 --> 00:35:24,285
Yeah.

547
00:35:26,325 --> 00:35:26,655
Yeah.

548
00:35:26,715 --> 00:35:31,095
So even though we're all star seeded to do
this stuff, it's like, my mama had a quote

549
00:35:31,095 --> 00:35:33,975
when I was growing up, You never know
what's in an ant gut until you smoosh it.

550
00:35:34,365 --> 00:35:35,805
But that's not, that's kind of graphic.

551
00:35:35,805 --> 00:35:41,445
But, but basically what she means is
that, um, we have to be, you know, so

552
00:35:41,445 --> 00:35:46,275
many great plans to come and then when
in reality, the whole thing falls apart.

553
00:35:46,275 --> 00:35:51,495
So the universe wants to make sure that
we could appreciate what it is we have.

554
00:35:51,555 --> 00:35:55,305
It's almost like the millionaire
who, I think this is a true story.

555
00:35:55,515 --> 00:36:00,015
He won the lottery and he loved
his granddaughter, you know,

556
00:36:00,075 --> 00:36:01,335
and he gave her everything.

557
00:36:01,335 --> 00:36:04,485
But he didn't test if she was ready
for that amount of money and she

558
00:36:04,485 --> 00:36:08,055
got with the wrong person, she
started doing drugs, and she died.

559
00:36:08,355 --> 00:36:11,115
It's almost like you have a child,
you love them, you want them to

560
00:36:11,115 --> 00:36:12,525
have a car, you give them the car.

561
00:36:12,525 --> 00:36:15,045
But what they don't have is the
driver's license, what happened?

562
00:36:15,495 --> 00:36:17,325
They could die, you know?

563
00:36:17,325 --> 00:36:21,390
So we're, we're tested to make
sure that we are ready for

564
00:36:21,390 --> 00:36:23,280
this kind of responsibility.

565
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:27,930
It's a big responsibility to come
here and at this time to do the work.

566
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,750
And, um, so the tests are part of the
journey, part of the initiation, you know?

567
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:36,600
The sleep and the wake and
the initiated and uninitiated.

568
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,990
Well, you know, I, I do believe,
you know, as a Christian, we, we

569
00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:46,830
say we are going to be resurrected.

570
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,290
That's reincarnation.

571
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:54,330
Uh, uh, Jesus says, You
shall be born again.

572
00:36:55,170 --> 00:37:02,610
Uh, so, you know, our understanding
of all of this may not be perfect,

573
00:37:02,610 --> 00:37:10,915
but I, I do understand that I will die
and be resurrected in, in my belief.

574
00:37:11,194 --> 00:37:19,620
So a lot of people do argue about
words, but the meaning behind the words

575
00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:24,300
are still the same meaning behind the
words, no matter how they're spewed.

576
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:33,690
So I, I think we really need to
understand how to love and get along more.

577
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:41,700
Because we're really good at hating
and defying what this, this body

578
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:49,290
can produce excellent things and
we choose to do wrong things.

579
00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:53,340
And I believe that's why we are here.

580
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,670
I believe we're supposed to experience
all of this sin, so we wanna spew it

581
00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:02,970
out and not experience it anymore.

582
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:11,925
And that way when the new Kingdom does
come down, we won't see all of this hatred

583
00:38:11,925 --> 00:38:17,055
and vileness that we're experiencing
because none of us will want it.

584
00:38:18,135 --> 00:38:19,905
Uh, what do you think about that?

585
00:38:20,655 --> 00:38:21,825
I got caught up in what you're saying.

586
00:38:21,825 --> 00:38:24,105
I had something in my mind and
I was like, Okay, lemme just let

587
00:38:24,105 --> 00:38:25,635
go of that and just hear you.

588
00:38:26,115 --> 00:38:32,355
And so like, my response could be
as, uh, natural as, as, as possible.

589
00:38:33,255 --> 00:38:33,825
Um,

590
00:38:37,035 --> 00:38:37,905
I feel that,

591
00:38:43,785 --> 00:38:46,245
there's a quote, there's a quote
that I wrote when I was younger.

592
00:38:46,245 --> 00:38:56,475
It said, People are always separated by
ideas, concepts, and religion, right?

593
00:38:57,195 --> 00:39:00,855
But they're always brought
together by their actions.

594
00:39:02,325 --> 00:39:03,705
So what do I mean by that?

595
00:39:04,155 --> 00:39:08,460
A person that has the seed of goodness
inside of them, it don't matter if the

596
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:12,780
person is Muslim, Christian, it don't
matter, they are going to find a way to

597
00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:16,020
gravitate to each other and do something.

598
00:39:16,170 --> 00:39:19,140
They're gonna transcend all
the differences because that

599
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:20,730
is what they are seeded to do.

600
00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:23,100
They don't care about religion,
they don't care about all that

601
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:27,390
'cause they see all saying the same
thing anyway in a sense, right?

602
00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:33,030
So people could use
anything to, to do anything.

603
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,290
They brought so-called and captured
Africans in the Good Ship Jesus,

604
00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:42,720
you know, to the US, um, to the
Americas is what, how the story goes.

605
00:39:43,170 --> 00:39:46,320
So people could use anything.

606
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,620
They could have all the titles
in the world, Marxist, this,

607
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:51,780
this, that, this, left, right.

608
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:58,140
When you have people who are doing
something, they let go of all those

609
00:39:58,230 --> 00:40:01,200
titles and they focus on what is good.

610
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,910
They see beyond all of that.

611
00:40:03,345 --> 00:40:07,635
So that's why I said when you focus
on a, they, they, we all gonna pay.

612
00:40:07,965 --> 00:40:11,415
Because my path had led
me to what I'm at now.

613
00:40:11,565 --> 00:40:14,325
It started with many things, I was
in this movement and that movement.

614
00:40:14,535 --> 00:40:16,695
I know when to shed those
movements because they're

615
00:40:16,835 --> 00:40:18,675
limiting my essence, growth.

616
00:40:19,425 --> 00:40:20,775
I know when to let them go.

617
00:40:21,075 --> 00:40:24,195
So it's not for me to preach about
anybody who's at this path and this.

618
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:25,845
It works for them, it works for them.

619
00:40:26,115 --> 00:40:29,575
But you telling me, someone preaching
to me about Christianity and this

620
00:40:29,575 --> 00:40:31,335
and that and this is what you
need, or you're gonna go to hell.

621
00:40:31,755 --> 00:40:36,165
I'm like, Listen, some, it's just,
to me, that's just like someone

622
00:40:36,165 --> 00:40:40,905
telling me, I'm looking at a tree, I
see a mango tree and they're trying

623
00:40:40,905 --> 00:40:42,375
to tell me that it's an orange tree.

624
00:40:42,885 --> 00:40:46,125
They're going in and on all the facts
in the world about how this is an orange

625
00:40:46,125 --> 00:40:51,080
tree and I see mangoes growing from that
tree, you think I'm gonna believe them?

626
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,380
You think I'm gonna believe them?

627
00:40:54,645 --> 00:40:57,975
That that is an orange tree when I
see mangoes growing from that tree.

628
00:40:58,545 --> 00:41:05,129
So people, I tell people, this is
another quote of mine, Religion, not

629
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:07,410
children, should be seen and not heard.

630
00:41:08,459 --> 00:41:11,399
Religion, not children,
should be seen and not heard.

631
00:41:11,549 --> 00:41:12,540
What do I mean by that?

632
00:41:12,759 --> 00:41:17,129
You will see it in a person if they're
so called what they say they are.

633
00:41:18,359 --> 00:41:22,439
And if they're not, their actions, some
people say, I can't hear you because

634
00:41:22,439 --> 00:41:27,089
your actions are so loud, I can't
hear a word you're saying, you know?

635
00:41:27,089 --> 00:41:28,680
So, yeah.

636
00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:31,439
That's right.

637
00:41:31,944 --> 00:41:34,259
I, I agree a hundred percent with that.

638
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,629
You know, and, and that's why
I don't use a lot of preaching

639
00:41:39,629 --> 00:41:42,209
in my, you know, podcast.

640
00:41:42,209 --> 00:41:45,930
I, I believe that's up to
the individual to understand.

641
00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:50,459
However, I do have beliefs that guide me.

642
00:41:50,759 --> 00:41:57,120
And I, I too believe a hundred
percent that Christianity especially

643
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,315
has a bad name because people don't
understand what you just outlined.

644
00:42:03,674 --> 00:42:08,805
It, it's through how you act,
what you do, not what you say.

645
00:42:09,075 --> 00:42:14,835
You know, what you say is easy to
say, but I, I see so many people

646
00:42:15,045 --> 00:42:23,325
using good intention to profit
themselves, and that's pure evil.

647
00:42:23,715 --> 00:42:30,045
And that has given so many
good intentions, a bad light.

648
00:42:30,404 --> 00:42:37,335
So it is, it's up to each and every person
to decide, are you gonna be good or bad?

649
00:42:37,545 --> 00:42:39,465
I, I believe that a hundred percent.

650
00:42:40,005 --> 00:42:45,255
And how we walk that is up to us.

651
00:42:45,404 --> 00:42:51,435
I, I believe there's a higher
power and I believe something

652
00:42:51,435 --> 00:42:53,655
made us all for a reason.

653
00:42:53,895 --> 00:42:56,535
Am I smart enough to figure all that out?

654
00:42:57,495 --> 00:42:57,525
Uhuh.

655
00:42:57,555 --> 00:43:02,655
That's why I'm speaking to you today,
and I speak to everybody else because I

656
00:43:02,655 --> 00:43:12,260
want to understand where everybody is,
in not only their life, it's my life too.

657
00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:20,655
Because I'm here with you and I
want it to be harmonious and we

658
00:43:20,655 --> 00:43:22,695
have to understand each other.

659
00:43:23,625 --> 00:43:30,855
Not to force change on anyone
because I can't make you

660
00:43:30,855 --> 00:43:33,375
change, that, that's impossible.

661
00:43:33,375 --> 00:43:37,485
You have to decide to honor
that and do it yourself.

662
00:43:37,815 --> 00:43:42,525
And I, I don't even know if you wanna
change, I, I don't care about that.

663
00:43:42,525 --> 00:43:48,495
That's a personal, you know,
it's a trip, it's a journey.

664
00:43:48,555 --> 00:43:56,985
And as long as we can get through it
without all of the hatred, violence,

665
00:43:57,015 --> 00:44:01,605
and most of all, misunderstandings.

666
00:44:01,610 --> 00:44:07,005
And that, that's by
owning up to who we are.

667
00:44:07,995 --> 00:44:08,595
Go ahead.

668
00:44:10,995 --> 00:44:11,475
Right.

669
00:44:12,915 --> 00:44:16,395
So one of the greatest gifts I've
got from being on this journey

670
00:44:17,475 --> 00:44:22,545
has taught me that, um, okay, so
there's three aspects of things.

671
00:44:22,904 --> 00:44:25,965
The one is understanding your
life path and cycles, you know, so

672
00:44:25,965 --> 00:44:28,845
you can make better choices with
astrology, whatever tools you have.

673
00:44:29,355 --> 00:44:33,255
And then there's clearing the mental
and emotional blockages with certain

674
00:44:33,255 --> 00:44:36,495
techniques I've, I've worked on that
helped me to clear certain things.

675
00:44:37,755 --> 00:44:42,195
But there's another aspect which is
interesting because it's the aspect of

676
00:44:43,115 --> 00:44:48,030
being okay with what is by understanding,
the reason why we are not better conscious

677
00:44:48,030 --> 00:44:53,550
co-creators is because there's certain
ways of, a conscious co-creator thinks.

678
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:57,450
I talk about the four questions
conscious co-creators ask, and

679
00:44:57,450 --> 00:44:58,860
seven universal principles.

680
00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:00,950
So you have the actions
and the techniques.

681
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,300
So I'll give you an example.

682
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:06,300
So I had, I do the techniques, but my
wrist was hurting me for a while and

683
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:07,790
I, I did the technique, it didn't work.

684
00:45:07,790 --> 00:45:10,140
And I realized, Oh, I
need to embrace this pain.

685
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,310
It's for a reason.

686
00:45:11,310 --> 00:45:13,410
It's teaching me something, you see?

687
00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:16,200
And that's where the universal
principal come, comes in.

688
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:18,540
We think that we just
wanna get out of pain.

689
00:45:18,540 --> 00:45:22,740
Sometimes pain is necessary,
sometimes pain is part of the

690
00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:24,900
process to the next stage.

691
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,900
So techniques alone is not going to do it.

692
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:30,900
You can't depend, what is more
important than having a technique

693
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:36,180
and wanting to be out of pain is
embracing pain to be out of pain.

694
00:45:36,330 --> 00:45:40,050
There's a slight difference you, to
some people who just want to be out

695
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,690
pain and use techniques to a person
that applies universal principles of how

696
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:50,190
to live their life that embraces what
comes so they can transform what is.

697
00:45:50,610 --> 00:45:54,270
And so I realized that conscious
co-creation coaching was a way

698
00:45:54,270 --> 00:45:56,610
to teach people these principles
of how to live their life.

699
00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:59,460
There's a certain way, like a
musician, they know the seven notes.

700
00:45:59,460 --> 00:46:01,589
They play it over and over
and over to get better at it.

701
00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:05,069
Um, they're not gonna be a master the
first time they learn these principles,

702
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,370
but as they practice and get better
at it, better at it, and ask these

703
00:46:08,370 --> 00:46:12,270
questions and cycles and cycle,
their growth continues to evolve.

704
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,830
And that's what we're all doing.

705
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:16,920
We're all at different stages and
we're all, we all will get there

706
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,100
because we all came out of the
source and we all will go back.

707
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,750
So once we understand that, it just
creates a, it gives a certain level of,

708
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:27,810
um, contentment but not complacency.

709
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:29,220
So that's the balance.

710
00:46:29,549 --> 00:46:33,930
You wanna be content with the journey,
but not complacent because we came here

711
00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:36,029
for a reason to have these experiences.

712
00:46:36,299 --> 00:46:38,759
And when we have these experiences,
we understand these cycles, we

713
00:46:38,759 --> 00:46:40,480
understand these universal principles.

714
00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:45,240
Life brings us challenges, but it, it,
it doesn't demolish us because we have

715
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:47,520
universal principles that guide our life.

716
00:46:48,030 --> 00:46:50,760
And I had some student interns for my
business and I teach, and that's the

717
00:46:50,830 --> 00:46:53,940
first thing I teach them, use seven,
you know, principles of how to live.

718
00:46:53,940 --> 00:46:57,210
And they, and then whenever we have a
problem, this is what my teacher taught

719
00:46:57,210 --> 00:47:00,960
me when I studied the acupuncture, but
he used the seven laws of Kybalion.

720
00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:02,970
But it's like, whenever we
learn something, he goes,

721
00:47:02,970 --> 00:47:04,050
What principal is that?

722
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:04,740
What principal?

723
00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:08,610
So we're always thinking about what
universal principles am I dealing

724
00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:09,900
with to handle this situation?

725
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:13,050
If they complain, okay, what principal
are, are you dealing with right now?

726
00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:15,300
And then they have to tell me
and then they're like, Okay.

727
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:19,560
So it's teaching them to, it's
giving them a, it's, it's more than

728
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,440
just giving a, a technique, it's
sort of like giving someone a fish.

729
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:26,880
Whereas understanding universal
principles, teaching them how to fish

730
00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:30,000
for themselves to make their life better.

731
00:47:31,275 --> 00:47:31,755
Yeah.

732
00:47:31,785 --> 00:47:33,255
Yeah, I like that a lot.

733
00:47:33,615 --> 00:47:37,665
Uh, I believe in that principle
where, teach them to fish so

734
00:47:37,665 --> 00:47:39,765
they can feed themselves forever.

735
00:47:40,170 --> 00:47:48,975
And, and so many want to control the
food per se in your life that, you know,

736
00:47:51,015 --> 00:47:55,365
so many miss an abundant
life just because of that.

737
00:47:55,905 --> 00:48:03,075
So, yeah, I, I think it, it's
really good to be broad in how

738
00:48:03,075 --> 00:48:09,255
you think and, you know, open to
understanding because that's where

739
00:48:09,255 --> 00:48:11,325
you're going to shift to true wisdom.

740
00:48:12,015 --> 00:48:18,525
And it, it's, we, we didn't make
the world, we're just in the world.

741
00:48:18,885 --> 00:48:24,105
And there are these certain
principles, if you fall off of

742
00:48:24,105 --> 00:48:26,175
a cliff, you're going to die.

743
00:48:26,175 --> 00:48:28,785
So we avoid cliffs, right?

744
00:48:29,085 --> 00:48:40,290
So if we dive into experiencing what those
limits truly are without crossing those

745
00:48:40,290 --> 00:48:45,390
boundaries, that, that can be a good life.

746
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:54,030
However, how can we understand
what the boundaries are if we're

747
00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:56,130
not setting our boundaries?

748
00:48:57,780 --> 00:49:00,870
When you say not setting your
boundaries, how do you mean?

749
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,280
To make sure I understand.

750
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,610
You mean, gimme an example.

751
00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:07,140
Yeah.

752
00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:12,210
Everything in life you
have to set a boundary on.

753
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,110
If you're eating, you have
to set your boundaries.

754
00:49:16,110 --> 00:49:20,520
Are you going to eat too much
or are you going to eat enough?

755
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:28,850
There's that middle ground on everything
and or there's a cause and effect in life.

756
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:29,970
So

757
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,649
we wanna find a balance in life
and understand when that balance

758
00:49:37,649 --> 00:49:43,080
is too far or not enough, because
a lot of us don't have enough.

759
00:49:43,830 --> 00:49:47,100
And that's why I teach in my conscious
co-creation workshop, I teach, I

760
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:50,040
talk about the four questions every
conscious co-creator must ask.

761
00:49:50,459 --> 00:49:55,529
And in time you ask these questions
and it maybe every quarter, whatever,

762
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,310
because the answers to those questions
will change as you continue to grow.

763
00:49:59,669 --> 00:50:03,949
And then you have the seven universal
principals and, um, a, a teacher named

764
00:50:03,949 --> 00:50:07,839
Almine, she talks about these, I forgot
the name, but she talks about the ten

765
00:50:07,859 --> 00:50:09,480
questions to ask in relationships.

766
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:14,729
And I use that, um, because once
you have these questions that you're

767
00:50:14,729 --> 00:50:17,850
asking, and life is gonna teach you,
you just live and you show up, whatever

768
00:50:17,850 --> 00:50:19,049
frustrates you is your teacher.

769
00:50:19,379 --> 00:50:24,000
Whatever, you know, is there, it's
going to be a pathway to initiate you.

770
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,990
So remember what I said earlier, you are
asleep to that area about what to do.

771
00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:29,550
So what's gonna happen?

772
00:50:30,210 --> 00:50:33,360
You initiate it, you're initiated,
actually, you are awoke to the

773
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,170
fact that this is a situation, but
you haven't been initiated into

774
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,090
understanding what to do about it.

775
00:50:39,330 --> 00:50:45,060
So life and other people who may be asleep
are going to put you through the process

776
00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:49,440
of waking up and how you deal with these,
answering these questions that are, your

777
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,690
guiding principles are going to lead you.

778
00:50:51,870 --> 00:50:56,580
It's all about your integrity
and, um, and I think that's what

779
00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:58,080
America's going through right now.

780
00:50:58,380 --> 00:51:02,970
It's, it's about, it's teaching us, it's
not about any politician or this or that.

781
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:06,390
It's about what do we
truly believe is true?

782
00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:08,009
What is our value?

783
00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:12,360
I'm watching people and they're making
decisions, Whatever decision they make

784
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:18,060
is fine, but what do they have to deny
reality in order to accept this thing?

785
00:51:18,750 --> 00:51:20,069
What is the true reason?

786
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:23,199
Where am I at right now is one of the
questions of the conscious co-creator.

787
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:27,629
Where am I at right now,
emotionally, spiritually, physically?

788
00:51:28,259 --> 00:51:29,279
We have to be honest.

789
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:32,609
If we're not honest about where
we're at right now, if we're doing

790
00:51:32,609 --> 00:51:35,879
things based out of fear, out of
whatever, not wanting to change, what

791
00:51:35,879 --> 00:51:39,779
have you, it's almost like someone
telling you, I wanna come pick you up.

792
00:51:39,779 --> 00:51:40,319
Where are you?

793
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,690
And you don't give 'em
the right directions.

794
00:51:42,839 --> 00:51:45,810
You are telling them where to go, and
you just start from another point.

795
00:51:45,810 --> 00:51:46,620
You gonna get there?

796
00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:49,169
No, 'cause you didn't, you
didn't, you weren't honest

797
00:51:49,169 --> 00:51:51,029
about where you're at right now.

798
00:51:52,109 --> 00:51:54,330
And another question that
a conscious co-creator must

799
00:51:54,330 --> 00:51:56,009
ask is, Where do I wanna be?

800
00:51:56,279 --> 00:52:00,720
And when you ask the question of
where I want to be, it's the reverse.

801
00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:03,990
Because in that sense, you don't
think about where you're at right now.

802
00:52:04,290 --> 00:52:05,549
You think about where you've been.

803
00:52:05,549 --> 00:52:08,399
And a lot of times people can't,
like my teacher used to say, I'm

804
00:52:08,399 --> 00:52:10,290
asking you where you're going and
you tell me where you've been.

805
00:52:10,919 --> 00:52:14,685
And what he meant by that is, a lot
of times we can't envision where we

806
00:52:14,685 --> 00:52:17,714
wanna be because we're so stuck in the
reality of where we're at right now.

807
00:52:18,044 --> 00:52:21,645
So a conscious co-creator knows when
to ask certain questions so that

808
00:52:21,645 --> 00:52:25,725
they can, and the more honest you
are with these questions, the better

809
00:52:25,725 --> 00:52:28,754
it is for your continued evolution.

810
00:52:28,815 --> 00:52:31,274
And then I go into the seven
questions, out of other things,

811
00:52:31,274 --> 00:52:35,115
but I think this is so cool because
once you have these principles,

812
00:52:35,444 --> 00:52:38,154
okay, so you have the principles,
which I think is the foundation, and

813
00:52:38,154 --> 00:52:39,285
the questions that you're asking.

814
00:52:39,285 --> 00:52:41,504
Because it's teaching you how
to guide yourself through life.

815
00:52:41,984 --> 00:52:47,475
Second is techniques for clearing
the mental and emotional blockages,

816
00:52:47,475 --> 00:52:50,535
the neuropeptides in our brain
that keep us acting the same way.

817
00:52:50,805 --> 00:52:53,115
All of thinking and talking and wishing.

818
00:52:53,115 --> 00:52:56,685
It's almost like you have a radio
and you want peace, but you're

819
00:52:56,924 --> 00:53:00,915
in the station of W-A-R, W-A-R is
what's playing on your station.

820
00:53:00,915 --> 00:53:02,895
That's all you're going
to hear is war music.

821
00:53:03,315 --> 00:53:06,825
If you want, maybe you don't know
how to change the frequency, you

822
00:53:06,825 --> 00:53:08,595
may not know how, that's a problem.

823
00:53:09,315 --> 00:53:12,765
But as long as you don't know how, or
you're too lazy to do it, whatever the

824
00:53:12,765 --> 00:53:19,770
reason is, if you don't change that dial,
all you're going to hear is W-A-R music.

825
00:53:20,340 --> 00:53:25,200
So the techniques of how to shift
the frequency in yourself is going to

826
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,820
help you be on that right frequency.

827
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:31,440
And then, like I said about understanding
your own personal life path and cycles,

828
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,190
like in the Destiny card system, the year
begins on your birthday and it's broken

829
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:37,920
down to seven fifty-two day period, right?

830
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,529
And everybody has a certain
period that's, each fifty-two

831
00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:42,810
day period is ruled by a planet.

832
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,220
So then you know the cycles of
your year of when certain things

833
00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:48,870
happen, you make better decisions.

834
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:51,630
It's not to tell you that this is
gonna happen, that, nothing happens.

835
00:53:52,050 --> 00:53:55,950
It's sort of like when you're
playing cards, you know, um, you

836
00:53:55,950 --> 00:53:58,920
could have a great deck of cards,
great hand, or a terrible hand.

837
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,790
But the one who plays the cards right
are the ones, is the one who wins.

838
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,259
It's not based on always the great
cards or the not so great cards.

839
00:54:07,259 --> 00:54:08,180
It's how you play it.

840
00:54:08,799 --> 00:54:12,225
And so these are the stepping tools
that a conscious co-creator uses

841
00:54:12,525 --> 00:54:16,545
to navigate their life in a way
by having the right perceptions,

842
00:54:16,545 --> 00:54:20,025
having the right understanding by,
how to approach life, and having the

843
00:54:20,025 --> 00:54:21,674
tools to clear up all the mental.

844
00:54:21,674 --> 00:54:27,125
I'm also a, a postum meditation,
meditator for many years, twenty years.

845
00:54:27,125 --> 00:54:30,585
And it's a technique to
allow seed life as it is.

846
00:54:30,585 --> 00:54:35,265
For postumies accepting life as it
is, not how you would want it to be.

847
00:54:36,015 --> 00:54:39,645
Which is, which is related to the first
question a conscious co-creator asked.

848
00:54:39,705 --> 00:54:42,345
It's not related to the second
one, which is, where do I wanna be?

849
00:54:42,495 --> 00:54:45,585
It's related to the first one because
that one will liberate you from all the,

850
00:54:45,585 --> 00:54:50,115
some scars and all the past karma because
you're honest enough with yourself to

851
00:54:50,115 --> 00:54:51,615
deal with the reality of where we're at.

852
00:54:51,944 --> 00:54:55,665
This is on an individual level, this
is on a national level, this is on a

853
00:54:55,665 --> 00:54:59,205
world level, this is on every level.

854
00:54:59,715 --> 00:55:00,615
We have to be honest.

855
00:55:00,765 --> 00:55:04,605
And then so the more honest we
are, the more we go into the veil

856
00:55:04,605 --> 00:55:06,165
of illusion that I talked about.

857
00:55:06,405 --> 00:55:10,035
Because there's only so much of
the iceberg that the average person

858
00:55:10,035 --> 00:55:13,565
is, wants to see, or is even star
seeded to see, what have you.

859
00:55:13,845 --> 00:55:18,915
So the ones that are able to see deeper
and longer into these long things

860
00:55:18,915 --> 00:55:24,495
that have happened in an individual's
life, in a nation's life, in a world's

861
00:55:24,525 --> 00:55:29,385
life, you know, the, the honest truth
is there have been many times when

862
00:55:29,385 --> 00:55:33,135
we've reset this program here on the
earth 'cause we wanna save the earth,

863
00:55:33,135 --> 00:55:34,515
but we don't need to save the earth.

864
00:55:34,515 --> 00:55:37,755
We need to save humanity in this
form because when Mother Earth

865
00:55:37,755 --> 00:55:40,485
is tired of us, she'll shake
us off with, like a bad habit.

866
00:55:41,445 --> 00:55:43,035
And, but guess what?

867
00:55:43,245 --> 00:55:48,255
Essence of who we are never dies so
we'll just evolve to the next stage.

868
00:55:48,255 --> 00:55:51,235
I think the problem is that we're
afraid of change, the part of

869
00:55:51,235 --> 00:55:55,589
us that's connected to form and
person is afraid of the next stage.

870
00:55:55,859 --> 00:55:59,670
And we have all kind of religions and
philosophies that tell us, Oh, if you

871
00:55:59,670 --> 00:56:01,620
do this, you'll be protected in heaven.

872
00:56:01,799 --> 00:56:03,210
Or if you do this, this will happen.

873
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,790
And all these reasons are not good enough.

874
00:56:06,359 --> 00:56:09,359
Because if they're only done because
you're afraid of this, or running from

875
00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:13,049
that and not understanding what your
true essence is, your true nature is,

876
00:56:13,799 --> 00:56:18,509
there's gonna be a time when you're
going to have to get woke from that.

877
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,290
You're gonna have to go through
the initiation of being awoke

878
00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:22,680
and, and, and all of that.

879
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,080
And it's not a bad thing 'cause
that's what we're here to,

880
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,339
we're here to have experiences.

881
00:56:27,390 --> 00:56:28,740
Yeah, yeah.

882
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:32,400
You know, have you ever
experienced deja vu?

883
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:34,350
Yes.

884
00:56:34,350 --> 00:56:34,890
Yes.

885
00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:38,370
Have you ever seen the movie Source Code?

886
00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:40,234
The movie Source Code.

887
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:44,160
You should watch it if you
could get your hands on it.

888
00:56:45,330 --> 00:56:46,380
I have not.

889
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,140
I, I'm not big on movies.

890
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:51,870
Oh, okay.

891
00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:56,070
I just watch them because there's so much
that they put in movies for us to get.

892
00:56:56,310 --> 00:56:59,610
Science fiction is really
science fact in so many ways.

893
00:56:59,610 --> 00:57:04,330
Like that's the mode that they teach us,
train us to be at the, go on to the next

894
00:57:04,330 --> 00:57:06,020
level of growth that needs to happen.

895
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,670
They have to put it in,
in certain movies, right?

896
00:57:08,910 --> 00:57:11,790
So I watch it for those purposes.

897
00:57:12,270 --> 00:57:12,570
Yeah.

898
00:57:13,885 --> 00:57:19,860
Well, well it's just, it's just a
phenomena that has occurred so many

899
00:57:19,860 --> 00:57:27,180
times in my life that it makes me wonder,
Wow, how is this possible, you know?

900
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:37,845
And, and there's, this is, this is why,
you know, many of us think linear in time

901
00:57:38,055 --> 00:57:44,505
and, and I think it's so much more than
that and we just don't understand it.

902
00:57:44,535 --> 00:57:49,545
Or, because I, I can sure
feel it in many ways.

903
00:57:49,545 --> 00:57:55,235
And that is just one instance,
that deja vu feeling.

904
00:57:55,815 --> 00:57:59,565
I've been here, I've done this,
I, I know what's coming next.

905
00:58:00,885 --> 00:58:05,775
And so our world is so curious.

906
00:58:05,775 --> 00:58:14,565
And my question to the people, Do you have
a curious mind to understand what you're

907
00:58:14,565 --> 00:58:22,275
in or do you just want to get through
it so you don't have to experience it?

908
00:58:23,775 --> 00:58:27,495
That's what I, exactly what I was
saying about do I, am I just doing

909
00:58:27,495 --> 00:58:31,075
these tools so I can run from pain
or am I using these understandings

910
00:58:31,095 --> 00:58:32,895
of how, so that I can embrace it?

911
00:58:32,895 --> 00:58:34,215
'Cause it's there to teach me something.

912
00:58:34,665 --> 00:58:39,885
I mean, our body, once we love our body
as much as our body loves us, it's like

913
00:58:39,945 --> 00:58:41,985
we do our body the worst disservice.

914
00:58:42,015 --> 00:58:43,695
It's constantly working.

915
00:58:43,755 --> 00:58:46,365
I believe our mind and our
body work together to serve

916
00:58:46,365 --> 00:58:47,985
our higher purpose, right?

917
00:58:47,985 --> 00:58:53,655
But right now, the mind has kind
of taken control of the gig.

918
00:58:54,035 --> 00:58:56,085
It's not asking the body for any help.

919
00:58:56,085 --> 00:58:59,205
So that's why I said any technique
that works on the subconscious level,

920
00:58:59,205 --> 00:59:02,565
on the body technique, is what,
what I learned to help clear that.

921
00:59:02,995 --> 00:59:06,855
And the mind is a great teacher,
I mean, um, student or, you know,

922
00:59:07,345 --> 00:59:09,495
servant but a, oh, a terrible master.

923
00:59:09,525 --> 00:59:11,205
I forgot how exactly how the saying goes.

924
00:59:11,205 --> 00:59:11,805
But, um,

925
00:59:13,935 --> 00:59:16,605
so we need a mind and we need a body.

926
00:59:16,785 --> 00:59:21,135
But when they're, when we don't, when
we don't understand, like, so we do

927
00:59:21,135 --> 00:59:25,650
the body a disservice when, say you're
eating wrong, you're not doing right,

928
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:27,330
doing all, eating the wrong things.

929
00:59:27,390 --> 00:59:29,520
And then you have a knee
ache or a stomach ache.

930
00:59:29,730 --> 00:59:32,610
Oh, my dang gone knee is giving out on me.

931
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:33,120
Well, guess what?

932
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,420
It needs to give you pain to let you
know you're doing this thing wrong.

933
00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:41,190
And as soon as you, it gets your
attention, it's like, we're doing

934
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:42,330
everything here to make it work.

935
00:59:42,330 --> 00:59:44,880
Well, we're gonna have to send out a pain
signal because they're not listening.

936
00:59:45,210 --> 00:59:48,990
And then when we do, Oh, that dang gone
knee, and they're like, that's the worst,

937
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,600
that's, that's like betrayal to the body.

938
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,200
It's trying everything
that's possible to help you.

939
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,450
It's, they're trying to do everything,
our bodies is, is, is made for us to live.

940
01:00:00,779 --> 01:00:05,220
But when we don't follow certain
universal laws or whatever principles

941
01:00:05,460 --> 01:00:07,200
for, we're going to suffer.

942
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,700
And that's a good thing that we did.

943
01:00:08,790 --> 01:00:12,360
Imagine we just eat yourself into
oblivion down, you know, you need

944
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,270
to have some kind of consequence
so you could get back in balance.

945
01:00:15,660 --> 01:00:19,620
So it's not, we should embrace
these things so that it can help

946
01:00:19,620 --> 01:00:21,390
us get to the next level, you know?

947
01:00:23,005 --> 01:00:27,424
I don't wanna get on my soap box.

948
01:00:27,465 --> 01:00:34,965
Uh, so, so, you know, that, that
goes into the fear and anxiety that

949
01:00:34,965 --> 01:00:39,045
we feel, it's there for a reason.

950
01:00:39,645 --> 01:00:41,655
Is it a warning, you know?

951
01:00:41,655 --> 01:00:47,565
So we really have to be in
tune to our own personal self.

952
01:00:47,895 --> 01:00:55,005
And when we have that moment, we
have to tune into that moment.

953
01:00:55,005 --> 01:00:56,415
Why are we feeling that?

954
01:00:56,805 --> 01:01:00,105
And I think that's part of
what you're talking about,

955
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:08,805
co-creation, being aware so you can
actually, yes, instead of react,

956
01:01:09,705 --> 01:01:16,035
you know, you can actually analyze
and experience instead of react.

957
01:01:17,895 --> 01:01:18,585
Yes.

958
01:01:18,590 --> 01:01:22,710
I mean, love, we all talk about
love, and love is a beautiful energy.

959
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:26,700
But love, let me tell
you, it is a catalyst.

960
01:01:26,759 --> 01:01:32,670
It's gonna take anything that's not at its
frequency and burn it out of our lives.

961
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,970
And who doesn't have so many
things that are preventing us from

962
01:01:35,970 --> 01:01:37,410
being at that higher frequency.

963
01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:39,450
It's just a great thought.

964
01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:43,110
Yes, we need to love, but in
order to do that, all kinds of

965
01:01:43,110 --> 01:01:44,400
stuff is gonna have to come up.

966
01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:47,700
Things, and that's what has got
me on the path that I've lived.

967
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,870
A totally different, unique path
that led me to all kinds of cities,

968
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:54,750
different things, all kinds of ways
of being so that I can hold onto

969
01:01:54,750 --> 01:01:57,900
the truth that, uh, I have to share.

970
01:01:57,900 --> 01:01:59,130
And everybody is different.

971
01:01:59,130 --> 01:02:02,229
And there's no one truth because
everybody has different perspectives

972
01:02:02,250 --> 01:02:03,450
how they look at the truth.

973
01:02:03,779 --> 01:02:08,250
However, it's not about right
or wrong, it's about deciding

974
01:02:08,250 --> 01:02:10,080
yes or no for your life.

975
01:02:10,590 --> 01:02:11,100
You see?

976
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,365
So I could be here in Dominica where
I'm living, and we had a hurricane

977
01:02:16,365 --> 01:02:20,355
five come right through, the eye of the
hurricane five came right through us.

978
01:02:22,515 --> 01:02:24,235
A lot of people lost their houses.

979
01:02:24,254 --> 01:02:26,025
I mean, their roof, their this and that.

980
01:02:26,025 --> 01:02:29,444
But here in our reality,
the roof stayed on.

981
01:02:29,444 --> 01:02:32,444
There was, the trees fell, but
one fell this way, that way,

982
01:02:32,535 --> 01:02:33,605
this way, didn't hit the house.

983
01:02:33,915 --> 01:02:40,484
So there's two realities that happen,
one is one way and one is the next way.

984
01:02:40,845 --> 01:02:47,924
And, you know, so there's, there's,
there's, um, and I have another quote,

985
01:02:49,185 --> 01:02:53,835
Uh, it says, Our protection
is in our perception.

986
01:02:55,185 --> 01:02:57,015
Our protection is in our perception.

987
01:02:57,884 --> 01:02:59,595
It's not in what you could do here.

988
01:02:59,685 --> 01:03:02,384
Get this and grab that,
and do this and do that.

989
01:03:02,984 --> 01:03:07,665
It's not going to save you at the
end of the day if you perceive that

990
01:03:07,665 --> 01:03:12,480
there's something outside of you
that can, um, affect you, you know?

991
01:03:12,779 --> 01:03:16,470
So I talk about all this in my book,
Afraid of Our Own Shadow, a Manifesto

992
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:18,209
and Guide for Conscious Co-Creation.

993
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,649
It kind of tells a little bit of
my story and, and, and these seven,

994
01:03:23,149 --> 01:03:26,529
seven steps to conscious co-creation,
it talks about it in that book.

995
01:03:26,930 --> 01:03:29,520
And, and it is important because, um,

996
01:03:32,910 --> 01:03:34,560
everybody has their own certain path.

997
01:03:34,919 --> 01:03:38,009
At the end of the day, we're always
gonna be judged by how far we

998
01:03:38,009 --> 01:03:39,709
wanna go to stay on the love side.

999
01:03:40,049 --> 01:03:43,680
We all start off so fresh on the love
side when we're young and when life

1000
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,750
throws us this and that, we kind of
misalign ourselves with that and we start

1001
01:03:48,899 --> 01:03:51,330
focusing on the they and we all pay.

1002
01:03:51,569 --> 01:03:55,589
And then, you know, finally we get to a
point through many lives, and that's what

1003
01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:57,089
I realized when I looked at my chart.

1004
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,870
I have the last degree of
Scorpio, so I realized I must of

1005
01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:03,180
did everything in another life.

1006
01:04:03,180 --> 01:04:05,580
But this life is like the
Source Code, I just came back.

1007
01:04:05,610 --> 01:04:07,830
I wanna clear up all of that, you know?

1008
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,230
So that's why you don't judge people,
because you don't know at what stage they

1009
01:04:11,230 --> 01:04:13,380
are in their own evolution, you know?

1010
01:04:13,770 --> 01:04:16,230
So I know that gets into other theories.

1011
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:19,320
But at the end of the day,
it's not about right or wrong.

1012
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,960
It's about choosing
yes or no for yourself.

1013
01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:25,350
I'm not here to tell everybody that
this is how it's supposed to be and

1014
01:04:25,350 --> 01:04:29,100
that, that I, I, who knows what is
right and who knows what is wrong.

1015
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:31,950
There's so much cloud of, veil
of illusion that's out there.

1016
01:04:32,190 --> 01:04:34,860
There's no one out here who could
think, they think they know something.

1017
01:04:35,010 --> 01:04:40,290
Because when I saw what my mom had when I,
I'm like, there's a whole nother reality

1018
01:04:40,290 --> 01:04:42,450
that we, that majority of us don't know.

1019
01:04:43,050 --> 01:04:49,170
Oh, so what we can do is decide this is
what I value, yes to this or no to that.

1020
01:04:49,410 --> 01:04:52,470
And that's what this time is
making everybody have to look at.

1021
01:04:53,590 --> 01:04:58,455
Are they're saying yes because this
is what they value, or are they saying

1022
01:04:58,455 --> 01:05:01,845
yes because this is what's gonna
keep me safe, or I don't wanna be

1023
01:05:01,935 --> 01:05:06,885
that one out, or, this is challenging
my, my concept of what have you.

1024
01:05:07,365 --> 01:05:11,325
And these are the reasons those get
to go back to the four questions

1025
01:05:11,325 --> 01:05:13,965
every conscious co-creator was
asked, where am I right now?

1026
01:05:14,565 --> 01:05:15,615
You know, what's the best?

1027
01:05:15,615 --> 01:05:21,165
And then the third is, um, uh,
you know, where am I right now?

1028
01:05:22,305 --> 01:05:25,815
What's in the way and what's
the best solution for my needs?

1029
01:05:26,085 --> 01:05:27,345
And life will teach you that.

1030
01:05:27,855 --> 01:05:31,005
Life will teach you that if you're
honest with it and you're truthful.

1031
01:05:31,005 --> 01:05:34,605
Because like I said, it don't matter
what religion, idea, philosophy

1032
01:05:34,605 --> 01:05:37,665
that separates us, we're always
brought together by our actions.

1033
01:05:38,025 --> 01:05:41,375
And when we act off of our higher
self, our true knowing, we will

1034
01:05:41,535 --> 01:05:46,035
connect with other people of whoever
raised whatever ideology when

1035
01:05:46,035 --> 01:05:48,015
we, when we tap into that power.

1036
01:05:50,415 --> 01:05:50,835
Yeah.

1037
01:05:50,955 --> 01:05:55,635
I, I, I believe that you
can feel people around you.

1038
01:05:56,085 --> 01:06:01,305
If you're in tune to that resonance
that we all live in, you know?

1039
01:06:01,305 --> 01:06:08,025
And if you've ever walked into
a room and got that feeling, I'm

1040
01:06:08,085 --> 01:06:12,735
turning around and walking out,
that's another one of those things.

1041
01:06:13,095 --> 01:06:15,795
And these are universal in our principles.

1042
01:06:16,035 --> 01:06:20,695
And if we can adapt our ways
to understanding why we're

1043
01:06:20,725 --> 01:06:25,904
receiving these, I, I think life
can be better for all of us.

1044
01:06:26,025 --> 01:06:30,855
So, DeBorah, I could go
on for hours with you.

1045
01:06:31,365 --> 01:06:36,464
I, I wanna ask, Is there anything
that we've missed that you would

1046
01:06:36,464 --> 01:06:38,775
like to add to our conversation?

1047
01:06:39,975 --> 01:06:43,305
Um, no, I think we did pretty good.

1048
01:06:43,365 --> 01:06:45,705
I think we did pretty good,
we covered a lot of things.

1049
01:06:46,125 --> 01:06:51,674
I would say that, um, this is a
unique time in our, in our lives,

1050
01:06:52,065 --> 01:06:54,555
you know, end of a, a major cycle.

1051
01:06:55,470 --> 01:06:56,009
And

1052
01:06:58,529 --> 01:07:03,900
just like a, a mother goes through
growing pains, you know, um, in terms of

1053
01:07:04,110 --> 01:07:06,690
when they're having a baby, birthing it.

1054
01:07:07,290 --> 01:07:10,319
But after having that child, it's
like, Oh my gosh, there's nothing

1055
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:13,500
else I would rather, I would do
it again and again and again.

1056
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:16,830
Um, some would be saying, Never again.

1057
01:07:16,830 --> 01:07:22,740
But, but the majority of people, when
they see the joy of, of the final product,

1058
01:07:23,279 --> 01:07:28,440
and I think, um, for those people who
are ready to embrace being a conscious

1059
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:34,230
co-creator, to step into another level
of, of, of co-creating with the universe,

1060
01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:38,670
it's, it, we have to do what you
said, as a Christian, which is die,

1061
01:07:38,730 --> 01:07:40,860
metaphorically, figuratively, literally.

1062
01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:44,190
Not always literally, but
figuratively, to be reborn.

1063
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,880
You know, you can't get into
another reality based on

1064
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,650
the one that you have been.

1065
01:07:49,770 --> 01:07:54,270
You have to die to those old ideas and
philosophies in order to be born again.

1066
01:07:54,540 --> 01:07:57,180
So, yes, even birth is a death.

1067
01:07:57,420 --> 01:07:59,580
Death of being in the womb
and all taken care of.

1068
01:07:59,580 --> 01:08:01,200
Now the child is out.

1069
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,310
So there's a death of that,
there's always a definite birth.

1070
01:08:04,310 --> 01:08:06,840
It's all connected, it's all one.

1071
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,980
You know, as much as you love
the day, you need night in order

1072
01:08:11,010 --> 01:08:12,660
to get to the next one, right?

1073
01:08:14,665 --> 01:08:18,750
As much as you love the day, you need a
night to get to the next one, you know?

1074
01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:20,970
So that's what I would say.

1075
01:08:22,530 --> 01:08:27,420
You start as a caterpillar
to become a butterfly.

1076
01:08:27,630 --> 01:08:29,190
And that cocoon,

1077
01:08:32,805 --> 01:08:34,155
ah, see, there you go.

1078
01:08:34,455 --> 01:08:40,335
See that cocoon, it's the turmoils
of life and transformation.

1079
01:08:40,995 --> 01:08:46,785
And that's what we've been talking about
here with this conversation today, is

1080
01:08:46,785 --> 01:08:53,445
how to get through those turmoils and
transformations the best way possible.

1081
01:08:54,015 --> 01:08:57,885
How can people get in touch
with you and become a part of

1082
01:08:57,885 --> 01:08:59,444
what you're doing, DeBorah?

1083
01:09:00,045 --> 01:09:03,915
Okay, so I have a blog that has been
kind of inactive because I have been

1084
01:09:03,915 --> 01:09:09,045
spending so much time on the astrological
research and doing things and, with that.

1085
01:09:09,045 --> 01:09:11,625
It's, so I have not been so consistent.

1086
01:09:11,625 --> 01:09:14,925
But I have a website, I have a blog
that talks a lot about my journey.

1087
01:09:15,285 --> 01:09:17,235
Um, it's called Coming Full Circle.

1088
01:09:17,625 --> 01:09:21,505
Um, it's going up through different
years, like a twenty year cycle of,

1089
01:09:21,675 --> 01:09:23,835
of me, this whole project that I have.

1090
01:09:23,835 --> 01:09:28,804
And that's whoiamcommunications.com/cfc.

1091
01:09:29,274 --> 01:09:33,689
And my regular website,
whoiamcommunications.com is, um, has

1092
01:09:33,689 --> 01:09:40,229
some of the services that I do and I
have a substack, um, I have a substack

1093
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:41,849
that I wanna start having more active.

1094
01:09:41,849 --> 01:09:47,099
I wanna talk about the journey starting
in 2026, uh, about all the six cities that

1095
01:09:47,099 --> 01:09:48,929
I went through to end up in Port Aurora.

1096
01:09:48,929 --> 01:09:51,990
The whole download started
so I, I could share that.

1097
01:09:52,410 --> 01:09:54,690
And, um, yeah, so that's what I'm doing.

1098
01:09:55,559 --> 01:09:56,460
That's how you can reach me.

1099
01:09:58,610 --> 01:09:59,440
Exciting.

1100
01:09:59,530 --> 01:10:03,660
You know, you're very active and you're
doing some wonderful things out there.

1101
01:10:04,259 --> 01:10:06,179
I ask you to keep doing them.

1102
01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:10,799
And if you ever need anything,
reach out to us because

1103
01:10:10,799 --> 01:10:13,110
we're always willing to help.

1104
01:10:13,889 --> 01:10:18,269
But it, it's been a pleasure
having you on the show today.

1105
01:10:18,269 --> 01:10:19,380
Thank you for being here.

1106
01:10:20,265 --> 01:10:21,045
You are welcome.

1107
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Thank you.

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Thank you for reaching out to
me and then connecting with me.

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You know, I have met, um, many people
reach out, so it's been, it's been good.

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Thank

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you.

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Thank you for joining us today.

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If you found this podcast enlightening,
entertaining, educational in any way,

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please share, like, subscribe, and join
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great episode of the Dead America Podcast.

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I'm Ed Watters, your host, enjoy
your afternoon wherever you might be.