1 00:00:01,290 --> 00:00:03,540 Can you feel it coming? 2 00:00:03,810 --> 00:00:06,450 Something's waking up inside. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:14,790 Hearts ablaze, we're standing tall breaking chains of yesterday. 4 00:00:15,610 --> 00:00:16,599 Dead 5 00:00:20,009 --> 00:00:25,680 America finds it's voice, in the darkness, we make choice. 6 00:00:25,979 --> 00:00:32,850 Truth and healing lead the way, hearts ablaze, we're here to stay. 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:40,460 Rise from ashes, come what may, we're finding hope 8 00:00:42,820 --> 00:00:45,430 in disarray. 9 00:00:45,670 --> 00:00:48,420 Today, we're speaking with Cydian Kauffman. 10 00:00:48,810 --> 00:00:53,310 He is one of the owners of Pure Water Northwest. 11 00:00:53,790 --> 00:00:55,980 Cydian, could you please introduce yourself? 12 00:00:55,980 --> 00:00:58,590 Let people know just a little more about you, please. 13 00:00:59,550 --> 00:01:00,180 Oh, sure. 14 00:01:00,330 --> 00:01:00,660 Yeah. 15 00:01:00,690 --> 00:01:01,740 Thanks for having me on. 16 00:01:02,370 --> 00:01:06,480 Um, I'm, uh, one of the owners of Pure Water Northwest, uh, the 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,640 company which started a little over a decade ago to try and handle water. 18 00:01:11,850 --> 00:01:17,250 Um, basically, by helping people with drinking water, both in their 19 00:01:17,250 --> 00:01:19,800 homes and, and their businesses. 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:25,350 But, um, the goal of the company is to try and do it through kind of a water science 21 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:28,260 lens, um, rather than a product lens. 22 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:31,230 So we try to do a lot of testing first. 23 00:01:31,230 --> 00:01:36,340 And I joined the company six years ago knowing absolutely nothing about 24 00:01:36,340 --> 00:01:41,560 water science, water treatment, or anything and, and I have learned a lot. 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,040 I have become, um, something of an expert in it. 26 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,690 So I just like to get on, you know, podcasts every once in a 27 00:01:49,690 --> 00:01:52,760 while to talk about water, water quality, or, or whatever you want 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,470 to talk about in relation to that. 29 00:01:54,470 --> 00:01:56,840 But, um, but yeah, that's, that's what I'm doing. 30 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,560 That's why I'm here. 31 00:01:57,830 --> 00:02:02,990 Uh, I'll tell you, water is one of the most important things, if not 32 00:02:02,990 --> 00:02:08,990 the most important things, of our life and we are oblivious to it. 33 00:02:09,259 --> 00:02:18,359 It's all around us and it covers most of the earth, but yet, we are so retarded, 34 00:02:18,570 --> 00:02:21,480 if you will, when it comes to water. 35 00:02:21,899 --> 00:02:28,589 And the Clean Water Act, it really doesn't do much for us 36 00:02:28,589 --> 00:02:30,989 if you really look deep into it. 37 00:02:31,679 --> 00:02:38,850 But they try to safeguard our water and there's a lot to do with water. 38 00:02:40,410 --> 00:02:47,355 Let's start off with, what's the main issue with water contaminants? 39 00:02:48,975 --> 00:02:54,165 Um, well, the main issue with water contaminants is that they're invisible. 40 00:02:54,465 --> 00:02:58,760 I mean, what you just described, that water is kind of everywhere, 41 00:02:59,670 --> 00:03:06,210 um, it being ubiquitous, so to speak, it being in, in everybody's lives. 42 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,380 It would be like if someone said that the air you're breathing is bad. 43 00:03:11,130 --> 00:03:14,580 Um, if the air you're breathing is bad, then like, what are 44 00:03:14,580 --> 00:03:15,810 we going to do about that? 45 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:20,580 Um, water's a little easier than if the air you were breathing is bad though, you 46 00:03:20,580 --> 00:03:23,520 actually make a choice to drink water. 47 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,200 And so there are a lot of ways you can actually filter it. 48 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:33,240 Um, it is a little easier to confront than air, but not that much easier. 49 00:03:33,540 --> 00:03:39,630 And so the fact that many contaminants are completely odorless, tasteless, 50 00:03:40,050 --> 00:03:44,430 you can't see it, um, that makes it difficult for people to wrap their head 51 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:49,245 around the idea that some of the water they're drinking might have a problem. 52 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:53,610 It, it's killed so many people through history, you know, simple cholera 53 00:03:53,970 --> 00:03:56,550 and not boiling the contaminants out. 54 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,355 So, you know, what is the best system for us to use to get the 55 00:04:02,355 --> 00:04:04,575 simple organics out of our water? 56 00:04:05,775 --> 00:04:10,515 Well, I mean, if you want one system, that would always be reverse osmosis. 57 00:04:10,845 --> 00:04:15,675 Um, we don't, we are not a big proponent of just throwing a system at something. 58 00:04:16,155 --> 00:04:21,675 Um, it is, it is okay to do if, if you really want to get a reverse 59 00:04:21,675 --> 00:04:26,640 osmosis system and then you're, you're pretty, pretty safe with water. 60 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:32,430 Um, but the better thing to do is identify what's in your water by doing testing. 61 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:39,430 Um, for example, uh, most reverse osmosis systems are only fifty percent 62 00:04:39,450 --> 00:04:41,730 effective against arsenic five. 63 00:04:42,510 --> 00:04:43,980 Um, I mean arsenic three. 64 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:49,395 And, um, the, there, there are, there's more than one form of arsenic. 65 00:04:49,395 --> 00:04:53,655 And a, a form of arsenic, and arsenic is everywhere, 66 00:04:54,435 --> 00:04:59,445 Um, a form of arsenic will only be fifty percent removed by reverse osmosis. 67 00:04:59,445 --> 00:05:04,724 So you would need a, uh, supplementary system to that, something that has 68 00:05:04,724 --> 00:05:12,534 like a nano titanium oxide or, um, bayoxide or, uh, something called SBG 2. 69 00:05:12,554 --> 00:05:15,765 Basically other forms of median that are specialized in 70 00:05:15,765 --> 00:05:18,284 reducing arsenic at that level. 71 00:05:18,284 --> 00:05:19,995 Or you have to oxidize the arsenic. 72 00:05:19,995 --> 00:05:26,145 So basically it, it's fine if you just want to throw a systematic, get a reverse 73 00:05:26,145 --> 00:05:30,195 osmosis, but if you really want to be sure what's in your water, you wanna tailor it. 74 00:05:31,094 --> 00:05:35,354 Uh, you should get a test and talk to an expert. 75 00:05:37,215 --> 00:05:44,415 So you can actually tailor your filtration by the different chemicals that you add, 76 00:05:45,165 --> 00:05:48,075 and it will suit your system a lot better. 77 00:05:48,705 --> 00:05:49,605 That's interesting. 78 00:05:51,344 --> 00:05:52,965 It'll last longer, yep. 79 00:05:53,295 --> 00:05:55,155 And, and it will avoid problems. 80 00:05:55,155 --> 00:06:01,724 Actually, um, a main source of people's problems they're not aware of is when 81 00:06:01,724 --> 00:06:07,905 they decide to throw a softener at, uh, their well water, for example. 82 00:06:08,474 --> 00:06:13,914 And if you've got well water and you've got, um, arsenic or high levels of cadmium 83 00:06:13,935 --> 00:06:18,795 or chromium or some other contaminants in the well water, and all you're doing 84 00:06:18,795 --> 00:06:21,645 is throwing, uh, cation resin at it. 85 00:06:22,065 --> 00:06:25,245 So you're just trying to attract that positively charged ion. 86 00:06:25,784 --> 00:06:32,955 That is going to prevent, uh, that is going to cause sometimes those 87 00:06:32,955 --> 00:06:39,015 other ions to bind to it or get stuck in it, and those will release 88 00:06:39,044 --> 00:06:41,984 because they're not the right charge, but they will still get stuck. 89 00:06:41,984 --> 00:06:46,185 So you can get arsenic, for example, binding up in that median, just 90 00:06:46,185 --> 00:06:48,344 holding and then suddenly releasing. 91 00:06:48,344 --> 00:06:50,145 It's called contaminant dumping. 92 00:06:50,685 --> 00:06:54,645 So if you don't actually test your water first, you can actually 93 00:06:54,645 --> 00:06:57,640 make your situation worse by trying to treat the water. 94 00:06:58,695 --> 00:06:59,715 That's interesting. 95 00:07:00,285 --> 00:07:09,105 So I'm a homeowner up here in the, uh, cascades and I have water 96 00:07:09,105 --> 00:07:13,215 issues, you know, it's, it's a community well that we use here. 97 00:07:13,905 --> 00:07:22,005 So I've been thinking about implementing a system to do something, but I'm really 98 00:07:22,034 --> 00:07:23,955 kind of ignorant when it comes to that. 99 00:07:23,955 --> 00:07:29,985 So I went out and I bought a Zero Water filtration and put it in the refrigerator, 100 00:07:29,985 --> 00:07:32,085 and that's what we kind of use. 101 00:07:32,469 --> 00:07:40,844 Is, is that getting what I need out of my water or should I actually get a 102 00:07:40,844 --> 00:07:48,075 personalized test instead of just relying on the test from my water provider? 103 00:07:49,605 --> 00:07:53,625 Well, because you're talking to me maybe, maybe I can help you through it without 104 00:07:54,075 --> 00:07:55,815 you having to do a personalized test. 105 00:07:55,815 --> 00:07:59,594 So, uh, but most people, yeah, they should do a personalized test. 106 00:07:59,955 --> 00:08:04,455 So let me ask you, on your community well, are they, uh, chlorinating it? 107 00:08:05,835 --> 00:08:06,375 Yes. 108 00:08:07,875 --> 00:08:11,175 Okay, so that means they're oxidizing the arsenic. 109 00:08:11,745 --> 00:08:15,645 So if they're chlorinating it already, they're already flipping that valent 110 00:08:15,645 --> 00:08:19,905 state of that arsenic to a much easier, easier state to remove. 111 00:08:20,534 --> 00:08:24,165 Um, that Zero filter, uh, those do deionization. 112 00:08:25,635 --> 00:08:27,735 So I have two things to say about them. 113 00:08:27,735 --> 00:08:31,844 One, they're fantastic for the period of time they work for because 114 00:08:31,844 --> 00:08:33,405 they're deionizing your water. 115 00:08:33,405 --> 00:08:38,475 Like you can't beat deionization really, um, but they don't backwash. 116 00:08:38,534 --> 00:08:41,475 You can get deionizing filters that backwash. 117 00:08:41,895 --> 00:08:46,455 Uh, they won't do full deionization, but you can get them that 118 00:08:46,455 --> 00:08:48,685 do sufficient deionization. 119 00:08:48,705 --> 00:08:51,645 And then they, they backwash, which means they self clean. 120 00:08:52,035 --> 00:08:55,125 That Zero filtering needs to be replaced, but how do you know 121 00:08:55,155 --> 00:08:56,355 when it needs to be replaced? 122 00:08:56,355 --> 00:08:58,755 All you're doing is doing TDS testing. 123 00:08:59,475 --> 00:09:06,570 Um, that means that, for all we know, that filter is binding with 124 00:09:06,570 --> 00:09:13,610 and getting filled with, uh, the much more easy to grab contaminants and 125 00:09:13,610 --> 00:09:19,480 then allowing through it, the tail end of the filtration lifetime, allowing 126 00:09:19,530 --> 00:09:24,690 through some of the, uh, harder to grab contaminants, which can be bad for you. 127 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,850 Like arsenic is harder to grab. 128 00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:31,319 So, um, it is not a perfect solution. 129 00:09:31,439 --> 00:09:35,010 And as long as you're actually doing those tests, the TDS tests 130 00:09:35,130 --> 00:09:38,160 and then really keeping up on the filter, it's probably okay. 131 00:09:38,849 --> 00:09:44,579 Um, but those filters can go bad pretty fast if your well water is bad. 132 00:09:44,579 --> 00:09:47,849 So it's not, it is definitely not a solution for everyone. 133 00:09:48,390 --> 00:09:52,319 Um, we've had people who have, uh, well water that's so bad 134 00:09:52,319 --> 00:09:57,390 that those Zero filters would go bad in three or four days, so. 135 00:10:00,285 --> 00:10:04,515 So, so talk to me a little bit about these systems. 136 00:10:04,725 --> 00:10:09,945 Can I get like an under the sink system that will do that process 137 00:10:10,185 --> 00:10:15,195 instead of this big tank that I have to set in the back room someplace 138 00:10:15,195 --> 00:10:17,745 and fill it with salt and chemicals? 139 00:10:19,275 --> 00:10:23,655 Well, you can do reverse osmosis under your sink, which will generally do more 140 00:10:23,655 --> 00:10:25,905 and last longer than that Zero filter. 141 00:10:26,594 --> 00:10:31,305 Um, if you do 'em both together, like you're, you're, you're doing 142 00:10:31,305 --> 00:10:33,314 more than, more than a lab would do. 143 00:10:33,314 --> 00:10:36,734 So you're, you're getting fantastic water if you do 'em both together. 144 00:10:36,734 --> 00:10:41,355 But the, um, but it's also maybe a little bit of overkill, it 145 00:10:41,355 --> 00:10:42,855 does depend on your water though. 146 00:10:43,064 --> 00:10:49,245 So to answer your question with any, any accuracy, I would 147 00:10:49,245 --> 00:10:50,775 have to see your water tests. 148 00:10:51,375 --> 00:10:56,895 But you can't do self back washing filters without, um, having a whole house system. 149 00:10:56,895 --> 00:11:01,455 Those, those tall tanks that are about as tall as a person, if you want to have 150 00:11:01,455 --> 00:11:04,705 them self clean, you have to get those. 151 00:11:04,705 --> 00:11:07,825 You're not getting a self-cleaning system that fits under the sink. 152 00:11:08,005 --> 00:11:10,285 So for those, you're always changing filters. 153 00:11:13,495 --> 00:11:19,585 So with the reverse osmosis system, is there a filter that you replace in those? 154 00:11:19,585 --> 00:11:21,115 Or how does that actually work? 155 00:11:22,155 --> 00:11:22,635 Yeah. 156 00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:27,945 Um, RO requires membrane replacement and there's also some filters that 157 00:11:27,945 --> 00:11:29,475 are there to protect the membrane. 158 00:11:29,475 --> 00:11:34,125 But the membrane, that little canister that's usually about this big, that 159 00:11:34,125 --> 00:11:39,209 goes under your sink, inside the reverse osmosis, that thing is amazing. 160 00:11:39,990 --> 00:11:46,260 Um, it does the work to remove, uh, salts, um, and it doesn't do anything 161 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:51,660 with ions, it's removing salts, and inorganics, and some organics. 162 00:11:52,260 --> 00:12:00,005 Uh, because it is physical filtration, but also, um, it does, it does 163 00:12:00,010 --> 00:12:06,060 essentially reverse, what reverse osmosis basically is, is that natural, 164 00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:13,170 um, osmotic tendency, which is the tendency for things to create balance. 165 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:19,800 So you'll have one side of something here that's contaminated, and through osmosis 166 00:12:19,830 --> 00:12:21,660 it will contaminate the other side. 167 00:12:23,250 --> 00:12:27,900 We are doing reverse osmosis by applying pressure and then putting basically a 168 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:34,275 screen between, between the two things that will push this way, but won't 169 00:12:34,275 --> 00:12:35,985 allow it to travel back this way. 170 00:12:36,375 --> 00:12:41,175 And then you drink from this side, you drink from the clean water side of it. 171 00:12:41,175 --> 00:12:43,515 That's basically all reverse osmosis is doing. 172 00:12:43,515 --> 00:12:43,575 Um, 173 00:12:45,689 --> 00:12:50,490 but it, and which is amazing, that's an amazing method of treatment. 174 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:58,080 And it, it allows, it allows, uh, naval vessels at the sea to drink sea water, um, 175 00:12:58,140 --> 00:13:00,900 rather than having to store, store water. 176 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:05,370 So, I mean, that, that process is incredibly powerful and reverse 177 00:13:05,370 --> 00:13:07,350 osmosis is incredibly effective. 178 00:13:08,895 --> 00:13:11,835 And it doesn't make your water unhealthy like some people think either. 179 00:13:13,905 --> 00:13:17,324 What about UV filtration, ultraviolet light? 180 00:13:17,895 --> 00:13:22,725 Is that effective and is it, is it worth the cost of that equipment? 181 00:13:23,865 --> 00:13:27,765 Yeah, for bacteria, it has shown to be pretty effective. 182 00:13:28,305 --> 00:13:33,525 It is the least effective of all, all of the various ways of killing 183 00:13:33,525 --> 00:13:37,170 bacteria, but it is effective. 184 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:43,890 Um, you would call ozone more effective, chlorine more effective, 185 00:13:44,130 --> 00:13:47,250 um, but UV is very effective. 186 00:13:47,250 --> 00:13:47,770 Yes. 187 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:50,460 At, at bacteria only. 188 00:13:52,410 --> 00:13:52,720 Yeah. 189 00:13:53,030 --> 00:14:00,630 We've used chlorine for years to, you know, help reduce the health 190 00:14:00,630 --> 00:14:03,930 risk of water, but there's a, 191 00:14:06,089 --> 00:14:08,640 there's a deal with chlorine. 192 00:14:09,089 --> 00:14:12,599 You know, it's been years since I've been into this, but it's, 193 00:14:12,599 --> 00:14:21,540 uh, it, it's residual and that residual chlorine can be bad for us. 194 00:14:21,569 --> 00:14:23,130 Can you talk to us about that? 195 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,170 Well, for sure. 196 00:14:25,170 --> 00:14:25,530 Yeah. 197 00:14:25,530 --> 00:14:27,720 I mean, in high doses it's cancer causing. 198 00:14:27,810 --> 00:14:30,840 Uh, chlorine was used in, um, what? 199 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,150 World War II to kill people. 200 00:14:33,210 --> 00:14:40,635 I mean, it, it's, it's, in its basic form, it's a gas and it will absolutely 201 00:14:40,635 --> 00:14:42,615 kill a person in high enough doses. 202 00:14:43,155 --> 00:14:48,555 Uh, the chlorine byproducts that, um, are created by the action of 203 00:14:48,585 --> 00:14:55,035 chlorinating and decontamination creates trihalomethanes, bromodichloroacetic 204 00:14:55,035 --> 00:15:01,075 acids, haloacetic acids, all of those various chlorine byproducts. 205 00:15:01,095 --> 00:15:05,835 Chloroform, like chloroform is one of the byproducts of chlorine. 206 00:15:06,345 --> 00:15:13,230 And, um, the, the, the thing that you need to remember is everything about 207 00:15:13,439 --> 00:15:16,110 what will hurt your body is about dosage. 208 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,959 So there's two things that I, I , I need people to always, I always 209 00:15:21,959 --> 00:15:26,280 am telling people two things, and these are contrasting realities. 210 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,550 One is, the dose is what kills a person. 211 00:15:29,610 --> 00:15:32,189 Not, not the item, it's the dose. 212 00:15:32,430 --> 00:15:35,400 You drink too much pure water, you die. 213 00:15:35,610 --> 00:15:41,190 Like, um, I think nine liters or something will kill a person. 214 00:15:41,250 --> 00:15:44,640 So it's how much, it's just how much. 215 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,590 But then again, anything that you aren't filtering ahead, your body is the filter. 216 00:15:49,590 --> 00:15:55,530 So if you don't filter out the chlorine and chlorine byproducts, which are 217 00:15:55,530 --> 00:16:00,990 needed, you have to have that or you're gonna die from some bacteria, it's, or, 218 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:08,550 or amoeba, or protozoa, or some sort of cyst or parasite will kill you for sure. 219 00:16:08,850 --> 00:16:10,980 Um, uh, at some point. 220 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:17,985 Um, especially with the water the way it is now, the, the, the, uh, originating 221 00:16:17,985 --> 00:16:21,725 water, the way it is now before it is treated, that will, that will kill you. 222 00:16:22,415 --> 00:16:27,405 But, um, I mean, in most sources, I, I shouldn't say that outright. 223 00:16:27,405 --> 00:16:29,925 There are some sources that are actually very pure still. 224 00:16:29,925 --> 00:16:31,845 But in most places right now, yeah. 225 00:16:32,775 --> 00:16:39,345 And then, uh, anything that is then a byproduct after that, the chlorine 226 00:16:39,915 --> 00:16:44,010 residual, the chlorine byproducts, all of that, those are not in high 227 00:16:44,010 --> 00:16:48,120 doses enough to kill most people or hurt, even hurt most people. 228 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,750 But they do build up, they can build up over time. 229 00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:56,550 And like I said, If, if you aren't filtering it, your body's the filter. 230 00:16:56,550 --> 00:17:01,800 So it is good to get some carbon to get rid of that chlorine stuff. 231 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:06,960 So, so that is the answer is an activated chlorine? 232 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:10,020 Activated carbon to get rid of that stuff. 233 00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:10,170 Yeah. 234 00:17:11,339 --> 00:17:12,659 Or charcoal. 235 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:13,980 Sorry. 236 00:17:14,879 --> 00:17:21,300 So I, I was reading your bio when it came over and it talks 237 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:23,579 about water and gender equality. 238 00:17:23,639 --> 00:17:29,370 The untold story, how clean water transforms women's lives and why 239 00:17:29,370 --> 00:17:33,720 it's one of the biggest human rights issues nobody talks about. 240 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,459 I need to know more about this because I've never heard of this. 241 00:17:39,525 --> 00:17:39,915 Yeah. 242 00:17:40,545 --> 00:17:44,415 Um, well, let me, let me put it to you this way. 243 00:17:44,805 --> 00:17:48,855 In a country where, um, you don't have just water flowing through all 244 00:17:48,855 --> 00:17:52,575 the pipes, uh, where're you, where are you getting the water from? 245 00:17:52,785 --> 00:17:56,955 You're, you're going to a borehole if you're lucky enough to have one, like a 246 00:17:56,985 --> 00:18:00,255 well, or you're getting it from puddles. 247 00:18:01,065 --> 00:18:06,375 Um, and if you have no access to water, the only way you're getting 248 00:18:06,375 --> 00:18:10,695 it is by walking for many, many, many miles to get the water. 249 00:18:12,915 --> 00:18:14,295 Who is doing that? 250 00:18:15,165 --> 00:18:18,645 Women and children, that's who's doing it. 251 00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:25,605 And this is many, many, many, many locations where there are thousands 252 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:31,665 of people who are huddled together around an area that has, um, you 253 00:18:31,665 --> 00:18:35,655 know, some access to water part of the year, and then another part of 254 00:18:35,655 --> 00:18:37,425 the year there's no access to water. 255 00:18:37,905 --> 00:18:41,985 And during that time, there's four to five hours per day that 256 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:45,754 all the women and children are just walking to get that water. 257 00:18:46,175 --> 00:18:50,375 Which means those women cannot be educated, they cannot get a job, they have 258 00:18:50,375 --> 00:18:53,135 to rely on a man, um, to support them. 259 00:18:53,645 --> 00:18:55,925 And that man then has all the power. 260 00:18:56,615 --> 00:18:59,345 So if they're lucky, they've got a good one. 261 00:18:59,435 --> 00:19:02,584 And if they're not, they have to suffer whatever's happening. 262 00:19:03,334 --> 00:19:10,385 So in those areas, the topic of equal rights cannot even begin. 263 00:19:11,070 --> 00:19:13,050 You can't even start that topic. 264 00:19:13,530 --> 00:19:16,740 You could not say, I want equal rights. 265 00:19:16,770 --> 00:19:19,620 Because there's no, you have no leverage whatsoever. 266 00:19:19,620 --> 00:19:22,830 You have no choice to just say, okay, I'm just gonna go get my 267 00:19:22,830 --> 00:19:24,780 own, I'm gonna go do my own thing. 268 00:19:25,710 --> 00:19:27,540 Uh, it's just not really possible. 269 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:31,620 So it is a huge gender equality issue. 270 00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:36,180 And those companies like Ryan's Wells and, and other companies who are going 271 00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:41,910 around drilling wells, um, and then they, they, uh, they either figure 272 00:19:41,910 --> 00:19:45,600 out the water chemistry themselves or they contact a company like ours. 273 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:52,050 We've, we've helped with some of those projects, um, advising on them and, 274 00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:56,250 uh, making sure the water that comes outta the ground, it's decent enough 275 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:57,720 that they're not gonna die from it. 276 00:19:57,750 --> 00:20:01,140 And then suddenly the entire social structure of the 277 00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:04,020 area changes, it's amazing. 278 00:20:05,054 --> 00:20:06,855 Yeah, that's incredible. 279 00:20:07,095 --> 00:20:11,085 Yeah, I, you know, a lot of people don't even think about that. 280 00:20:11,085 --> 00:20:16,395 And we've heard about, you know, the African, and, you know, 281 00:20:16,514 --> 00:20:20,175 these dry places being without. 282 00:20:20,175 --> 00:20:24,824 But yet we overlook those problems in our world. 283 00:20:25,155 --> 00:20:35,700 So how, how can we actually get these people to a better place in life? 284 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:43,500 Is it by drilling wells, or is it by moving them to a more arid place, or? 285 00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:44,880 So yeah. 286 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,510 There's two, I mean, there's two basic solutions. 287 00:20:48,510 --> 00:20:53,640 One is you get them a well if you drill deep enough, in most 288 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,200 places, you'll find water. 289 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,180 Not all places, but most places. 290 00:20:57,180 --> 00:20:59,010 If you drill deep enough, you'll find water. 291 00:20:59,730 --> 00:21:01,680 Um, so that is one option. 292 00:21:03,090 --> 00:21:07,409 And then, uh, yeah, moving them is maybe an option. 293 00:21:07,409 --> 00:21:09,330 I think if they could move, they would though. 294 00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:16,200 So sometimes what is actually happening is that people are already moved and 295 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,750 the infrastructure in the place is not, um, worked on by the local government. 296 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:28,110 So even in those places, they are still having to travel for hours to get water. 297 00:21:28,889 --> 00:21:35,370 And those places, what can actually help is access to testing. 298 00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:37,350 As strange as this sounds. 299 00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:43,305 If those places who actually have a governance take a test and 300 00:21:43,305 --> 00:21:44,775 say, This is what we're drinking. 301 00:21:44,775 --> 00:21:48,405 And they walk it to their municipal, not their municipality, they're not 302 00:21:48,405 --> 00:21:52,065 gonna necessarily have one, but their government, their local representative, 303 00:21:52,065 --> 00:21:54,555 and say, Look, this is our water. 304 00:21:55,035 --> 00:21:59,745 These are way beyond the health level, this is what's causing our children to 305 00:21:59,745 --> 00:22:05,860 die, this is what's causing us to have malnutrition, uh, stunted growth, to have, 306 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:08,410 um, developmental issues in our society. 307 00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:11,890 It changes our entire lives and this is the proof. 308 00:22:12,550 --> 00:22:14,050 That can actually help a little. 309 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,440 I mean, it depends on whether the government's gonna listen. 310 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,300 But it, it can actually help some. 311 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:25,630 So those two things, I would say access to testing and then the 312 00:22:25,630 --> 00:22:27,850 ability to actually get wells drilled. 313 00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:33,070 Which means you have to, you have to partner with a company that does that 314 00:22:33,070 --> 00:22:38,775 as their, um, as their mission, like, like Ryans Wells, I mentioned before. 315 00:22:38,775 --> 00:22:41,195 And there's some other companies as well that do that. 316 00:22:42,105 --> 00:22:42,264 Yeah. 317 00:22:42,564 --> 00:22:50,685 So I've, I've seen some companies out and they're doing testing with various 318 00:22:50,685 --> 00:22:59,175 systems that pull water out of the air, and this seems like it's a possible way 319 00:22:59,175 --> 00:23:06,375 of supplementing water supply, but I don't see that it would actually give 320 00:23:06,375 --> 00:23:13,695 you enough water to live off of because we, we actually consume so much water. 321 00:23:15,195 --> 00:23:19,395 Yeah, so you bring up a really good point. 322 00:23:19,395 --> 00:23:20,504 Those are brand new. 323 00:23:20,865 --> 00:23:24,794 Like I know they've been around for a long time, but the ones that can 324 00:23:24,794 --> 00:23:30,174 actually work efficiently enough that it could make sense, those are new. 325 00:23:31,094 --> 00:23:38,010 Um, to get those to work you'd have to, you know, currently to sustain one 326 00:23:38,010 --> 00:23:47,970 person requires, um, a size that's about, I don't know, eight people in space. 327 00:23:48,330 --> 00:23:52,590 So they take up the space of eight people, roughly, to sustain one person. 328 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,370 And I don't remember the exact power consumption, but you would 329 00:23:56,370 --> 00:24:02,850 need solar, or solar plus wind to capture it in those areas. 330 00:24:02,850 --> 00:24:10,230 So there's a lot of cost, but it is actually a reasonable possible 331 00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:12,990 solution in the future for some people. 332 00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:18,360 It is getting more efficient and it is getting a little bit more, the 333 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:21,060 cost of solar is getting better. 334 00:24:22,140 --> 00:24:26,970 Uh, so yeah, I could see this actually being, in the not too 335 00:24:26,970 --> 00:24:31,950 distant future, this being an, a third alternative for some of those areas. 336 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,260 Yeah, very interesting. 337 00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:41,730 So you also talk about structured water and hydrogenated water, 338 00:24:42,810 --> 00:24:45,090 what is this all about? 339 00:24:46,170 --> 00:24:49,680 Well, I just bring that up because I know a lot of people like 340 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,030 to talk about that right now. 341 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:55,830 There's a lot of topics people, people like to, like to go on and 342 00:24:55,830 --> 00:25:00,630 on about, about water and sometimes they're maybe not the most, um, 343 00:25:01,785 --> 00:25:05,220 scientifically, like, proven things. 344 00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:13,980 So structured water is this idea that water can, um, have a structure, 345 00:25:14,639 --> 00:25:19,320 uh, meaning the, the bonds in it will, will, instead of being random, 346 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,960 settle into a structured state. 347 00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:31,065 Um, there was a scientist in Japan who did a bunch of tests on mood energy 348 00:25:31,065 --> 00:25:36,284 in relation to water and he, nobody's been able to replicate what he did. 349 00:25:37,065 --> 00:25:39,705 But, uh, so who knows if it's true? 350 00:25:40,725 --> 00:25:43,695 And I'm not here really to say that that is or isn't true 351 00:25:43,695 --> 00:25:45,675 'cause it kind of doesn't matter. 352 00:25:46,034 --> 00:25:52,380 Water is fluid, not to be obvious about it, but water is fluid. 353 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,940 Any structure you put in the water is gone nearly instantaneously. 354 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:04,620 Um, so if you have the, but the, the ironic and funny thing is, if you have 355 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:12,480 a way to keep water structured, it would actually be better for your body if it 356 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,189 was somehow able to enter your body and remain structured as it entered your body. 357 00:26:17,189 --> 00:26:18,840 It would be, it would be. 358 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:24,659 It would be more efficient in the work it did, but, and so people take that and 359 00:26:24,659 --> 00:26:26,459 they say, okay, I want structured water. 360 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,260 Water doesn't stay structured. 361 00:26:28,679 --> 00:26:32,219 The closest thing we've been able to scientifically get to having 362 00:26:32,219 --> 00:26:35,370 structured water, that stays structured, is eating fruit. 363 00:26:36,435 --> 00:26:39,225 There is some structure to the water that's in fruit. 364 00:26:39,525 --> 00:26:43,815 If you then eat it and you get some of that liquid in you, it actually remains 365 00:26:43,815 --> 00:26:46,245 mildly structured inside you for a moment. 366 00:26:46,245 --> 00:26:49,575 So that's, there's been some evidence of that. 367 00:26:50,175 --> 00:26:54,225 But other than that, you can't, you can't have water, even the scientist here in, 368 00:26:54,255 --> 00:26:58,425 uh, University of Washington who studied structured water the most of anyone 369 00:26:58,425 --> 00:27:02,745 that I'm aware of, he said water doesn't retain its structure when you drink it. 370 00:27:03,345 --> 00:27:09,090 So, uh, it's a little bit of ,uh, snake oil for some people selling that. 371 00:27:11,429 --> 00:27:17,820 Uh, when, when you talk structured water, when it enters the body, are you talking 372 00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:25,155 about the, uh, molecules separating and breaking down from hydrogen and oxygen? 373 00:27:26,445 --> 00:27:27,824 It's not even just that. 374 00:27:27,885 --> 00:27:32,235 Literally the, when I, when I'm talk, when people talk about structured water, 375 00:27:32,264 --> 00:27:40,155 they're talking about the, um, magnetic, like the, uh, the layer that exists 376 00:27:40,155 --> 00:27:43,365 between the surface and the water. 377 00:27:43,695 --> 00:27:48,495 And that outside layer, where it's kind of against the surface, creates 378 00:27:48,495 --> 00:27:54,584 this tension, which creates an actual shape when you're looking at the water. 379 00:27:55,335 --> 00:27:59,685 Uh, it creates a shape to it versus it being random, um, being 380 00:27:59,685 --> 00:28:01,395 floating around randomly, right? 381 00:28:01,395 --> 00:28:05,685 So that's, that's what it really is talking about. 382 00:28:05,835 --> 00:28:08,835 And it, it doesn't stay, 383 00:28:08,835 --> 00:28:12,255 yeah, when I say it doesn't stay, it's kind of obvious if you think about it. 384 00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:15,135 You shake up that glass, or you just tip it towards your mouth, 385 00:28:15,495 --> 00:28:17,205 it's not gonna retain its structure. 386 00:28:18,015 --> 00:28:24,940 So, um, and then hydrogenated water, if water was able to, uh, water 387 00:28:24,940 --> 00:28:29,700 that does have extra hydrogen, yeah, there's some reality there for sure. 388 00:28:29,970 --> 00:28:31,800 There's some health benefits to that. 389 00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:39,570 It is not as, it is not as snake oil salesy as, um, structured water is, 390 00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:42,660 there's some genuineness to that. 391 00:28:43,470 --> 00:28:46,690 It's hard to get, it's really difficult. 392 00:28:47,060 --> 00:28:52,400 So you, you're, you're not gonna buy a little bottle, water thing, like 393 00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:57,450 this big, that says it hydrogenates water and then, and then have that be 394 00:28:58,094 --> 00:29:03,915 as effective as the $8,000 counter machines that they're 395 00:29:03,915 --> 00:29:06,764 selling that really do that. 396 00:29:06,764 --> 00:29:12,044 So it's, uh, and then the other thing is, you gotta drink it within like an 397 00:29:12,044 --> 00:29:18,915 hour or two of, uh, you know, creating your hydrogenated water as well. 398 00:29:19,604 --> 00:29:21,524 So there's some truth to that. 399 00:29:22,304 --> 00:29:26,145 But you can't, you can't like let it sit all day and expect it to 400 00:29:26,145 --> 00:29:27,415 be the same, it's not going to be. 401 00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:32,670 And then, um, they're currently, the technology's not really good 402 00:29:32,670 --> 00:29:35,400 enough to be able to really do much. 403 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,630 I think they do a little bit, but really not do much with those personal bottles. 404 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:45,180 So, um, not, buying hydrogenated water at a store, you have to make it. 405 00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:49,290 Uh, you can't, you can't just buy it and expect it to 406 00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:51,450 actually still be hydrogenated. 407 00:29:52,170 --> 00:29:53,700 It's not, that wouldn't be possible. 408 00:29:56,429 --> 00:29:58,470 What about carbonated water? 409 00:29:58,835 --> 00:30:03,120 I, I noticed there's a lot of this carbonated water coming onto the market. 410 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,679 I, I myself see that as a destructive thing. 411 00:30:07,889 --> 00:30:09,389 What's your take on it? 412 00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:11,340 Yeah. 413 00:30:11,429 --> 00:30:13,919 Um, I'd like to know why you think it's destructive. 414 00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:18,090 I don't, I don't think much about carbonated water other than it 415 00:30:18,090 --> 00:30:22,985 being, uh, you know, it'll have an effect on your stomach size. 416 00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:30,420 Um, uh, an actual effect on, on the literal size of your stomach, and 417 00:30:30,420 --> 00:30:32,850 that can make you hungrier for sure. 418 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,310 Um, yeah. 419 00:30:35,370 --> 00:30:38,910 So, but other than that, I, I don't have much of an opinion about it. 420 00:30:38,910 --> 00:30:40,230 What, what do you think about it? 421 00:30:40,905 --> 00:30:45,990 So, so this doesn't change or alter the pH balance of the water at all? 422 00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:48,600 It will a little bit, yeah. 423 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:59,895 Um, so pH balance of water is of, of little actual, uh, if it's super acidic 424 00:30:59,895 --> 00:31:05,265 or super alkaline, it can have an effect, like extreme levels somewhat. 425 00:31:05,835 --> 00:31:10,905 But your body is more powerful as far as the pH goes, more 426 00:31:10,905 --> 00:31:13,035 powerful than the water you drink. 427 00:31:13,755 --> 00:31:19,500 You will be overcoming any pH issues from water. 428 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:21,120 So, um, 429 00:31:23,370 --> 00:31:27,870 carbonated water as relates to pH, I, 430 00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:35,460 gosh, I don't think that is actually a significant factor. 431 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,480 Um, yeah. 432 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,830 I mean, if you're adding carbonic acid, it's, it's weak, right? 433 00:31:43,835 --> 00:31:44,005 But, 434 00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:52,229 but carbon dioxide reacting into carbonic acid doesn't seem like it's actually going 435 00:31:52,229 --> 00:31:55,409 to have that much of a significant effect. 436 00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:03,300 So that, that will not attack your teeth at all and all of 437 00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:06,060 that because of the pH then? 438 00:32:07,139 --> 00:32:07,409 No. 439 00:32:07,409 --> 00:32:11,729 I mean, minimally, if the pH is really getting that bad, then yeah. 440 00:32:11,729 --> 00:32:14,669 If it becomes acidic, it will definitely do that. 441 00:32:14,699 --> 00:32:20,699 But I don't think that it is going to create that level of an effect. 442 00:32:21,209 --> 00:32:26,580 I mean, it's, it, yeah, I, we haven't seen that at least, so. 443 00:32:29,655 --> 00:32:30,075 Yeah. 444 00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:35,475 Uh, I've been curious about that for quite some time because I've, I've heard 445 00:32:35,475 --> 00:32:43,815 so much about soda and pop, it's being carbonated is what rots your teeth. 446 00:32:44,145 --> 00:32:49,575 So this is what you do is help, uh, uh, destroy the myths behind 447 00:32:49,575 --> 00:32:53,625 these things, and that's why I thought I'd throw that in there. 448 00:32:58,365 --> 00:33:00,824 Yeah, yeah. 449 00:33:00,824 --> 00:33:03,225 I mean, it becomes mildly acidic. 450 00:33:03,225 --> 00:33:08,475 But not like, not like lemon juice, you know, not like stomach acid. 451 00:33:09,165 --> 00:33:14,304 So it's, it's like it becomes a little closer on the acidic scale, 452 00:33:14,335 --> 00:33:16,725 just like drops a little bit. 453 00:33:16,725 --> 00:33:21,435 But it's, it, if you were drinking it constantly, I could see it 454 00:33:21,435 --> 00:33:22,905 having an effect on your teeth. 455 00:33:23,564 --> 00:33:26,235 It, it's kind of back to the, it's a dosage thing. 456 00:33:29,835 --> 00:33:30,284 Yeah. 457 00:33:31,425 --> 00:33:35,685 You know, we, we could talk for hours about water, Cydian. 458 00:33:35,965 --> 00:33:39,524 Is there anything that you need to get in that's very important 459 00:33:39,524 --> 00:33:40,965 for people to understand? 460 00:33:41,879 --> 00:33:45,659 The majority of our country is on, um, city water. 461 00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:51,149 So if, uh, yeah, I'd like to talk about that for a moment. 462 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,670 Um, the Environmental Protection Agency actually is, you know, the one 463 00:33:56,670 --> 00:34:00,840 who is gonna be setting the standard for health, for city water, right? 464 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,420 And they set two standards for drinking water. 465 00:34:07,635 --> 00:34:11,715 I don't think that I'm just trying to bash the EPA, I'm not just bashing them. 466 00:34:11,715 --> 00:34:17,534 They, they, without them, we'd have a lot more dead people, that's for sure. 467 00:34:18,045 --> 00:34:25,335 But, um, but they, they, they, they set two standards for drinking water 468 00:34:25,335 --> 00:34:28,965 because without it, there would be, um, 469 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,650 there would be no municipalities. 470 00:34:31,799 --> 00:34:36,569 They, they have to set a health standard for water and then they have to set a 471 00:34:36,569 --> 00:34:38,489 legal standard and they're not the same. 472 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,440 So the health standard is called the MCLG, which stands for 473 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Maximum Contaminant Level Goal. 474 00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:51,000 The, the legal standard is MCL, which is Maximum Contaminate Level. 475 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,420 The maximum contaminate level is the enforceable level. 476 00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:58,670 So anytime you go to a lab and you, you take your water in and you say, 477 00:34:59,270 --> 00:35:03,255 and you say to them, and this is where, this is where I want people 478 00:35:03,255 --> 00:35:08,235 to understand this because they, they make this mistake at labs all the time. 479 00:35:08,865 --> 00:35:12,855 The, the person brings them their water and they say, is my water healthy? 480 00:35:12,945 --> 00:35:17,055 And they give them the test to sample and then, then the lab person comes 481 00:35:17,055 --> 00:35:19,275 back and says, your water's healthy. 482 00:35:19,395 --> 00:35:21,404 Everything's within the legal level. 483 00:35:21,975 --> 00:35:26,400 But that's not the health level, the health level is a different standard. 484 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,900 So the person who's asking the question, yeah, the person who's asking 485 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,490 the question, is my water healthy? 486 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:35,580 They're thinking one thing when they say, is my water healthy? 487 00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:38,819 But the lab is thinking another thing when they hear that. 488 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:43,290 Most people only think about the MCL, they only think about the 489 00:35:43,290 --> 00:35:46,440 legal level 'cause they assume the legal level is the health level. 490 00:35:47,009 --> 00:35:48,540 The legal level's not the health level. 491 00:35:49,845 --> 00:35:54,825 It is, um, and I am paraphrasing what the EPA says right on their website, 492 00:35:55,185 --> 00:36:02,714 it is the closest they can get to the health level considering cost and 493 00:36:02,774 --> 00:36:05,415 other factors such as infrastructure. 494 00:36:06,225 --> 00:36:13,080 So that means the municipalities are doing their very best to get stuff as 495 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,220 close to the health level as they can, but they can't get all the way there. 496 00:36:17,549 --> 00:36:20,220 Arsenic, for example, the health level is zero. 497 00:36:20,759 --> 00:36:26,850 The legal level is 0.01 parts per million, so that's not the same. 498 00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:32,520 If you go and you, you're drinking like 0.005 arsenic, you're 499 00:36:32,669 --> 00:36:36,330 halfway to the legal level from the health level, which is zero. 500 00:36:36,335 --> 00:36:39,840 So there's a lot of arsenic in city water. 501 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,460 Tons of it. 502 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,230 Tons. 503 00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:48,960 So what about all of the pharmaceuticals that people flush down their toilets? 504 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,370 Because most cities, they repurpose the water, don't they? 505 00:36:53,370 --> 00:36:56,190 And refilter it and then reuse it. 506 00:36:56,580 --> 00:36:59,190 So do those levels keep rising? 507 00:37:00,685 --> 00:37:02,790 Yeah, so here's the trick. 508 00:37:02,850 --> 00:37:05,160 Here's the tough thing about pharmaceuticals. 509 00:37:05,370 --> 00:37:08,490 They do rise, but they also fluctuate. 510 00:37:09,090 --> 00:37:14,490 So first of all, testing for pharmaceuticals is very difficult still. 511 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,520 You can do it, it's costly. 512 00:37:18,299 --> 00:37:22,915 If you then get a positive result from a pharmaceutical in your water, you could 513 00:37:22,915 --> 00:37:25,035 go back a month later and it's not there. 514 00:37:25,705 --> 00:37:29,924 You could then find out there's no pharmaceuticals in your water one 515 00:37:29,924 --> 00:37:31,725 month and the next month there is. 516 00:37:32,294 --> 00:37:36,285 If you want to be safe from pharmaceuticals, you, that's one of 517 00:37:36,285 --> 00:37:41,625 the rare situations where you just need to treat for pharmaceuticals so 518 00:37:41,625 --> 00:37:46,214 that you are not, um, not drinking pharmaceuticals when they appear. 519 00:37:47,685 --> 00:37:51,134 And, uh, yeah, yeah. 520 00:37:51,225 --> 00:37:51,705 Luckily, 521 00:37:52,215 --> 00:37:52,735 I'm 522 00:37:54,855 --> 00:38:00,405 not gonna say this is like actually a catchall, but if you, if you wanna do 523 00:38:00,405 --> 00:38:06,345 a catchall, you do a whole house system that is a high grade catalytic carbon. 524 00:38:07,155 --> 00:38:12,015 And then you follow it up with an under counter reverse osmosis for drinking 525 00:38:12,015 --> 00:38:17,895 water, you are pretty much guaranteed to catch just about everything. 526 00:38:19,274 --> 00:38:24,555 Arsenic is a, maybe they could get through as well as, um, bromide, 527 00:38:25,575 --> 00:38:30,585 but you could do a third little tiny filter for those and then you've kind 528 00:38:30,585 --> 00:38:32,415 of got a catchall for everything. 529 00:38:33,254 --> 00:38:39,585 Um, and that would probably cost most people around six 530 00:38:39,585 --> 00:38:41,415 grand, something like that. 531 00:38:42,524 --> 00:38:44,855 You know, between five and six thousand. 532 00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:51,510 And, and that's for the whole system, the tank plus the under the counter system? 533 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:53,370 Yeah. 534 00:38:55,085 --> 00:38:59,250 And, and the install cost for, for most, most install costs. 535 00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:01,710 You could, if you're installing it yourself, you could probably 536 00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:03,270 do it for close to $3000. 537 00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:06,810 You could probably figure that out, right in that range. 538 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:07,920 So, 539 00:39:10,455 --> 00:39:10,725 yeah. 540 00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:14,714 I mean, it's, it's very within reach for many people to have 541 00:39:15,524 --> 00:39:17,384 a kind of a catchall system. 542 00:39:18,165 --> 00:39:24,120 It's not, still not my recommendation to do catchall systems, but, you 543 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,830 know, I would want to do testing. 544 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:28,890 And then if you then say, I also wanna make sure I'm doing 545 00:39:28,890 --> 00:39:31,649 pharmaceuticals, we can adjust. 546 00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:38,190 But, but yeah, if, if someone wanted to do that, then you're pretty close with, uh, 547 00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:43,959 high grade catalytic carbon followed by an under counter reverse osmosis and then a 548 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:47,520 nano titanium oxide post-treatment filter. 549 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:52,649 All those together, that'll pretty much cover most everything. 550 00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:56,580 Right on. 551 00:39:57,060 --> 00:40:03,060 Cydian, it, it's wonderful talking to you about these things, but some 552 00:40:03,060 --> 00:40:05,580 people may want help with this. 553 00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:08,965 How can they get ahold of you and get more information? 554 00:40:10,185 --> 00:40:10,545 Sure. 555 00:40:10,965 --> 00:40:14,455 Um, yeah, our website is purewaternorthwest.com. 556 00:40:14,475 --> 00:40:20,745 My name happens to be Cydian, which means I'm really easy to, I'm, I'm 557 00:40:20,745 --> 00:40:22,545 really easy to find on the internet. 558 00:40:22,575 --> 00:40:24,615 If my name was Jeff, it might be harder. 559 00:40:25,155 --> 00:40:31,635 Um, so, but, uh, yeah, so that, that's how they, uh, I, if, if they're 560 00:40:31,635 --> 00:40:36,045 short questions, I answer free, free advice for people all the time. 561 00:40:37,049 --> 00:40:41,069 I actually, since I've started doing some of these podcasts, I've, I've had 562 00:40:41,069 --> 00:40:46,799 people from like Tennessee call me and people from Florida call me and just 563 00:40:46,799 --> 00:40:48,360 say, Hey, I've got a quick question. 564 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,040 I was like, who is this? 565 00:40:51,569 --> 00:40:51,930 So. 566 00:40:53,235 --> 00:40:53,965 Yeah, yeah. 567 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,660 If, if we can stay under two or three minutes though, I don't mind it. 568 00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:02,299 And I can usually answer questions that are asked, so, 569 00:41:03,229 --> 00:41:03,669 Alright. 570 00:41:03,690 --> 00:41:08,160 Cydian, I wanna say thank you for joining here today and sharing your 571 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,740 knowledge and wisdom with us about water. 572 00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:12,450 Alright. 573 00:41:12,690 --> 00:41:13,800 Yeah, thanks for having me on. 574 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,700 I really appreciate it. 575 00:41:24,495 --> 00:41:26,580 I used to drink the stories down, 576 00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:30,580 everything they handed out. 577 00:41:34,425 --> 00:41:35,654 Never asked a single question, 578 00:41:37,665 --> 00:41:39,795 just believed without direction. 579 00:41:41,805 --> 00:41:49,055 But something shifted in the light, started seeing clear and bright. 580 00:41:49,055 --> 00:41:57,255 Crystal clear, truth flows through lies, no more myths, no compromise. 581 00:41:57,615 --> 00:42:17,192 Cydian breaks the water code, science speaks where fear once flowed. 582 00:42:17,192 --> 00:42:17,470 You're now informed. 583 00:42:17,470 --> 00:42:25,225 You can feel it in the air, something honest, something fair. 584 00:42:25,275 --> 00:42:32,085 Like a window opened wide, letting sunshine flood inside. 585 00:42:33,945 --> 00:42:35,655 No more hiding what is real, 586 00:42:38,025 --> 00:42:40,755 this is how liberation feels. 587 00:42:40,945 --> 00:42:42,125 Crystal clear, 588 00:42:49,655 --> 00:42:51,585 truth 589 00:43:11,345 --> 00:43:16,745 flows through lies, no 590 00:43:22,355 --> 00:43:22,634 more 591 00:43:25,865 --> 00:43:30,165 myths, no compromise. 592 00:43:30,165 --> 00:43:45,484 Cydian breaks the water code, science speaks where fear 593 00:43:53,254 --> 00:43:54,294 once flowed. 594 00:43:55,334 --> 00:43:55,614 You're 595 00:44:00,754 --> 00:44:02,044 now informed. 596 00:44:02,044 --> 00:44:04,284 We were thirsty for so long, drinking fear, it felt so wrong. 597 00:44:04,284 --> 00:44:05,653 Now the truth tastes clean and true, pour a glass I'm sharing it with you. 598 00:44:05,653 --> 00:44:05,917 Crystal clear, truth flows through lies, no more myths, no compromise. 599 00:44:05,917 --> 00:44:05,947 Cydian breaks the water code, science speaks where fear once flowed. 600 00:44:05,947 --> 00:44:05,950 You're now informed, pure knowledge for every home. 601 00:44:05,950 --> 00:44:05,952 Pure knowledge for every home.