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Can you feel it coming?

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Something's waking up inside.

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Hearts ablaze, we're standing
tall, breaking chains of yesterday.

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Dead America finds its voice,
in the darkness we make choice.

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Truth and healing lead the way,
hearts ablaze, we're here to stay.

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Rise from ashes, come what may,
we're finding hope in disarray.

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Today, we're speaking with Ryan Reichert.

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He is the owner of Our Protector
Development, he has a podcast, Our

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Healer, Our Protector, and a book series
Protector Development book series.

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Ryan, could you please introduce yourself?

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And let people know just a
little more about you, please?

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Absolutely.

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Thank you, sir. Yeah, Ryan T.
Reichert, uh, grew up in North Dakota.

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Uh, yeah, started, uh, Our Protector
Development, uh, which was Our

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Protector LLC in the beginning.

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And, uh, it's now turned into Our
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Company's kind of taken on
coaching, professional speaking.

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Uh, the book series, as you discussed,
uh, there's, uh, God Only Knows When The

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Devil Comes For You A Second Chance At
Life, uh, came out in June and, uh, The

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Icarus Effect, um, The Highs And Lows
Of Our Emotions We All Have Feelings,

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uh, will be released 30 September.

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But, uh, if someone really wants
it, uh, I can certainly get it out

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to 'em with an email and an address
and, uh, we'd be good to go there.

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And, uh, the third one's an editorial
review kicking around, uh, you know,

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what it'll look like if it's, uh, you
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uh, you know, your spiritual journey
through life and the six steps

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that get you there kind of thing.

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But, uh, yeah, we got a lot of
stuff shaken out and it's super

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exciting and I'm just grateful
to be, uh, on your platform here.

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Well, thank you for being here, Ryan.

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It's a pleasure.

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Uh, first off, thank you for your service.

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It, it's, it's always a great
thing to talk to service members.

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Uh,

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what started you off on your journey to
what got you to where you are here today?

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Yeah, no, absolutely.

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It's, it's long, it's coming up,
uh, almost forty-seven years.

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But, uh, it, uh, it started like in, uh,
Hoople North Dakota, it's tater town, USA.

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It's a village of about
350 people, so super small.

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I graduated with eleven
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Uh, and so yeah, it was, uh, back in 97.

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Uh, but uh, through all that, uh, I came
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uh, reading, um, writing, and then
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impaired as she got, uh, you know,
closer to forty years in her teachership.

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Uh, my father who grew up in Hoople, uh,
was, uh, in the Army, Vietnam veteran.

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Uh, and then, uh, came home, uh, from
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dad got sick, so he didn't finish his
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And, uh, the Reichert's
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that they had there in town.

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And, uh, so for me, entrepreneurship
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it'll take many years to get to
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For me, it was not something I wanted.

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Uh, I looked at it as, you know, it was
a, a town of, uh, farmers, you know, so

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we were kind of, uh, you know, excuse
the language, but the bastard family.

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You know, there wasn't too
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And, and so, uh, you know, at
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this is my perception of things.

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It's changed, um, you know, now today.

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But, uh, when I was younger it was
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on my shoulder and so on and so forth.

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And, uh, I joined the Army in, uh,
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was at the University of North Dakota.

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I, I'd done two years of,
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I got an ROTC scholarship.

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And, uh, in 2002, uh, I was
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uh, headed off to the school for
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And, uh, from there, uh, did another
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Uh, retired as Lieutenant Colonel.

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Uh, so a trip to Afghanistan, Iraq, a
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just about four years in the Middle East.

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Um, you know, all the fun schools,
Airborne Ranger, all that different stuff.

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And, uh, yeah, we, uh, we were
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I was gonna be a financial advisor,
uh, for Edward Jones, my best friend.

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And, uh, COVID happened
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uh, my former spouse was originally from.

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retiring here in the Minneapolis
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turned into two weeks, turned into
three weeks, and so on and so forth.

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Minnesota instead of Washington.

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And, uh, so we made the leap in 21,
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I finished up my last six months of
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actually living with my best friend.

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So that was awesome for his, his family
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house while we moved the family here.

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Uh, and then I got a Fortune 500
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was about, uh, two and a half years.

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And a year ago, uh, I was laid off and
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months into that, uh, you know, uh, I
think it was Tailor Brands, it was, kept

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popping up in my inbox and I was like,
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And so I think that was
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And, uh, so I started the, uh,
Our Protector LLC and um, 30

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December, uh, our divorce was
finalized, uh, 30 December of 24.

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And, um, I started writing like that
day and, uh, the first book, God Only

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Knows When The Devil Comes For You A
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knocked that out in about 30 days
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Uh, we did a hybrid, uh, self-publishing,
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Uh, the third book, uh, is, uh, through
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So, uh, got a writing coach now and
all that to make it, you know, make it

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better and, and, uh, keep working on it.

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I do enjoy it.

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So it's kind of a crutch,
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It's to, like, I'd rather write a book
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professional speaking, you know, reaching
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the Chamber of Commerces and, you know,
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a, a speaker at some of their events.

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Um, so we always go back
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And, and I can think of that in my
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always, if you're in an operational
assignment for a few years, like, you

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know, it was always nice to come back
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it's kind of, you know, been that
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entrepreneurship where I'm already
seeing that I'd rather write a book

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than, you know, do the hard work and
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emails back and so on and so forth.

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But it's been beautiful to see
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my father, my grandfather had to be to
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So whoever's listening out there,
that's an entrepreneur, you know,

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you got a retired lieutenant colonel,
airborne Ranger, um, saying, wow.

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I mean, it's, it's tough.

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You know, you don't know when
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Um, you know, who, who you gotta pay
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for you and getting them paid on time.

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And, and I just, but I thoroughly enjoy
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look off on the horizon like I did.

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And that's where I struggled,
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You know, um, I got hurt in 2011,
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pretty solid comeback from it.

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But, uh, I think I was then,
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towards retirement, you know?

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Like just every year inching closer
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that it's just part of the journey.

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It's not the destination there,
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you further down the road.

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It, it, you know, so when I ended up, you
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fill the hole that I had in me, you know?

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I got paid a lot, but it definitely wasn't
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did have when I served, um, in the Army.

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And so I think today I have that
service back, but, you know, I

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do a lot of volunteer work with
the church, uh, that I'm in.

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You know, I, um, teach, uh, sixth
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So, um, I do have a past of,
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and prescription drugs that,
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about the last twenty-one months.

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Um, and so, you know, there's a lot
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know, this journey has, has taken me
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just to see it come full circle.

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Before this, I was actually moving
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at the University of Minnesota.

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Um, you know, this year she's in a
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know, second floor and, uh, definitely
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uh, we certainly moved a lot of stuff.

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Ryan, just from looking you over,
researching you, there, there's

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a lot to unpack with your life.

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And addiction is a big part of
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sometimes get stuck there and it's
hard to get moving forward again.

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And I, I really feel that our nation
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And we see this drug addiction, alcohol
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it's, it's just chronic right now.

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There's, there's gotta be a way
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into a productive nation again.

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I, I know you practice faith.

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Do you think faith is involved in coming
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I, I absolutely do.

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Um, you know, I, it's interesting when
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of, I guess, that I left, the part I
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know, the division of being, you know,
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also, we were Catholic in a Protestant
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Lutheran, uh, for the most part, um,
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And, um, to me, like you just,
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You just know that like anything else
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friends go to this, there, it doesn't
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stuck over here, you feel left out.

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And, you know, for me, that's
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And so then, you know, in the military,
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Like us, you know, going over to
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over there, going to Iraq and
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going to Saudi Arabia and what we
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So anyways, long and short is, there's
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know, I'm, uh, very much, you know,
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now I just follow Jesus Christ.

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Um, but to that end, I'm
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I always have been.

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alcoholism for the last forty years.

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And, uh, so when he sobered up in March
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you know, for me to be sober and give him
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And, uh, to that end, I mean,
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spirituality, we have that faith.

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And, and, uh, you know, I don't love
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it starts more so with us and being
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forth to be these saviors.

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And like, it's, it's within us to
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know, for me, a big push this year.

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You mentioned Our Healer,
Our Protector, the podcast, I

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co-host that with Lisa Sanders.

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She's a nurse of twenty-five years.

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And, you know, our goal this year
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know, so waiting on the state
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Um, but you know, for me it's to go
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protect the weak, and heal the sick.

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Um, you know, because I know when I
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with Lauren, um, you know, I can't
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stopping and wanting to help in
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know that I wasn't too far from that
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You know, I just, the good Lord
pulled me out of the ditch in time.

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Uh, and I had enough help around
me that, you know, I, I didn't

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have to go live on the street.

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You know, I was, I was hanging out in
my basement, um, you know, sleeping

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in the furnace room kind of thing.

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And so it's one where it ends up
being, you know, from that side of

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it, you know, where you're hiding out
and you are running from everything.

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You know, it's the same with fear,
you know, forget everything and

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run or face everything and rise.

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And today I just, you know,

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I, I'm brutally honest with everything,
you know, I'm, I'm here to help.

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And it's just that nature that, I think
the accountability that we all have as,

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as Americans, like, let's get our side of
the street clean, like, you know, first.

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Like I know it's easy to run somewhere
else and, you know, try to clean it

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up in some other part of the world.

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But I mean, we have such a
fractured state here that all of

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us, you know, love thy neighbor.

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I mean, I definitely, it's in both,
both of the first two books, you

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know, talking about loving thy
neighbor and it's not your neighbor

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next door to you like if you live in
suburbia, like they'll be just fine.

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Like it's your neighbors that, you
know, are, are living on the street

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that haven't showered, you know, they
don't know where their next meal is.

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Like, I think back to ranger school,
you know, when we had one meal a day

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and you'd eat at, you know, whatever
time, middle of the night, or, you

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know, in the morning in, in the patrol
base once you finally walked, I don't

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know how many tens of twenty of miles
and, you know, you were so grateful.

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And to me it's, the same goes
for anybody else out there.

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And so I get pretty passionate
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life I was somebody who didn't care
about anybody but myself, you know?

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about my two little girls, you know,

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like, you know, I was their hero.

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And then the things that I did, you
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know, with, uh, with their mother and
the divorce and separation and everything

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else, like, I was just not a kind person.

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And today, you know, I,
I do better, you know?

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I know better, so I do better.

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And, and you know, I put, I challenge
everybody else out there that's,

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that's gonna be listening, uh, or are
listening that, you know, just do better.

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Like, we all can give something, you
know, it doesn't have to always be money.

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Like, you know, time is the
most precious commodity.

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So like, go serve your
community and give back.

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You know, try to make better.

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I mean, it blows me away today, everywhere
I go, how dirty our, you know, cities are.

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You know, just everything is
becoming, we just have, we have

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no pride in ownership anymore.

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And what I mean by pride in
ownership is pride in America.

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You know, I'm not, pride in your
front lawn, you know, I got it,

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you should be keeping your little
castle, you know, all squared away.

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That's a given.

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Um, you know, it's picking up after
another human being, you know, if

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they're gonna throw, throw some
litter on the ground, pick it up.

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You know, like, but if you're the
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shame on you kind of thing too.

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And, uh, yeah, I, uh, I struggle with that
one, uh, quite a bit, uh, today, you know?

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And, and I know I have plenty of
other things to still work on with

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Ryan, you know, Ryan's not done yet.

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You know, there's plenty of reflection
to do and plenty of things that, you

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know, I'm still need to continue to
hold myself accountable to and for.

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Yeah.

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Well, I, I really believe that if we
start with that approach, accountability,

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everything else kinda lines up.

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Because, you know, everybody's
looking at you, what are you doing?

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And if you're doing the wrong thing, they
have the mindset, well, it's okay for me

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because Bob's doing it, Joe's doing it.

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So just do the right thing
and then there's no excuse.

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And, and I, I really think that
that's one of the ways out of this.

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So tell us about the journey
of writing these books.

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You said within thirty days you had a book
written, that just blows my mind away.

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That's dedication or a lot of focus.

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What is it?

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Well, it's not me.

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It's not me, it's just
divine, divine appointment.

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Um, I was just listening.

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I've, I've found, uh, let's see if I
got a copy of it, it'll be coming out

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in the third book here, it just went
to first readers, uh, but I call it,

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uh, Our Develop, uh, Our Protector
Development Spiritual Practices.

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Um, it'll, it'll be a ninety day
prayer meditation journal and,

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uh, kind of your work side of it.

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Um, and this is what got me, as I
just started the journey in recovery,

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um, you know, going to meetings,
having a sponsor, um, doing the work.

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And from there, you know,
my faith practices started

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getting stronger and stronger.

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Going back to church, uh, went
to a course, you know, called

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Alpha, uh, which was a great help.

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A lot of the things that I had
either forgotten, uh, since, uh,

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growing up in catechism or whatever.

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But, uh, it was, it was pretty special.

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And then joined a bible study about a
year ago and, uh, and a few other groups.

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But this takes you through what
I call your, you know, spiritual.

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You can't have spiritual without ritual.

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So I look at rituals capitalized,
you know, the SPI, it, it really,

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I mean, it's there 'cause I
believe, you know, in spirituality.

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But it's really the ritual, it's the
habits that you take on every day.

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And so for me, it's upon awakening,
it's an attitude of gratitude,

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it's prayer and meditation.

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So what that looks like today, for
me, after doing this for a number of

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months is, I, I don't set an alarm,

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I just naturally, the good Lord wakes me
up somewhere between 2:25 and 4:08 in the

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morning depending on, I guess, what good
and evil needs to be fought in this world.

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Um, feed May, May is a
three-year-old goldendoodle.

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Um, she is, uh, well, who saved my life,
uh, when we went through all this, uh,

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you know, twenty odd months ago now.

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And, uh, you know, basically walk,
feed her, walk her, come back, read

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my Bible, and then I go to the gym
for, you know, hour and a half or

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so, maybe two hours depending on
what the workouts look like, how many

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miles I'm gonna get in and so forth.

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And then your daily actions from there,
it's, it's, it's a real easy one,

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I call it now, like you're, uh, I don't
know, the six step method to, you know,

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thriving today or something like that.

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But it's smile, say please, say thank
you, say excuse me, say I'm sorry and

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then you repeat that all day long.

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It's just, it's literally that easy
and you gotta make eye contact or

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whatever that, that's important too.

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Uh, you write down ten things you're
grateful for, and if you're, if you

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don't have ten, you know, I always
say, you know, start with three.

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I mean, we all have three things
we can be grateful for, you know?

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We, you can hear, you can see, you can
talk, uh, that was three just off the bat.

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Not everybody has that, you know, ability,
you know, to have one of those three.

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Um, pray for three
people you do not adore.

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Uh, and then you work on
your three daily wins.

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So, physical win, walk, run, lift,
swim, whatever you do physically.

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A mental win, read, write,
create, learn, something else

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that you want to come up with.

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Your spiritual win, which is
pray, meditate, study, grow,

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whatever that looks like.

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And then you do a, an after action
review or an AAR from military.

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That always worked when we
did operations or exercises.

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But it's like, where do
I sustain in my wins?

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Where do I improve in my wins?

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And then what actions do
I need to take in my wins?

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And, you know, you, we
can talk a lot, right?

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We, we're always great at talking,

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it's those actions of
doing it every single day.

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And I always say growth over
comfort or discipline over feelings.

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Trust me, I do not wanna wake, you know,
wake up whenever that is, 2:25 to 4:08

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in the morning and then do what I do.

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I don't want to, I don't feel like it.

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Um, but I do because I know that
I have work to put in and, and

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that work has been the books.

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It's, there's gonna be an
online course that comes out

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here at the end of September.

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There's also gonna be an application
that will roll pretty much everything

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in together to have one community,
holistically speaking, with, you

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know, whatever we, whatever we work
on under the sun as a group on top of

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what, what's been built out so for,

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uh, so far.

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Excuse me.

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And then, uh, at the end of the
day, you do the same thing as you

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did at the beginning of the day.

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You pray, you meditate,
your attitude, gratitude.

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So it's really wild.

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And this is something I do
wanna kind of get in on it.

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It's like, and I never really
understood this, but like, you

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know, everyone was like, you know,
it's an attitude of gratitude.

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And if you can look at, if you can be
grateful for every single thing that

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happens to you in life, like your
pickup truck breaks down and you're

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like kicking the tires, you're swearing,
you're whatever, you can look at it,

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it's like, there's a reason why that
happened and you should be grateful for

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it, whatever it looks like, you know?

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So you weren't flying down the
interstate at seventy miles an hour

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and it broke down and, you know, you
killed thirty people or whatever.

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There's a lot of different,
I mean, that's extreme, but,

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you know, whatever it may be.

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I, I used that one because it
did happen a few weeks ago.

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Uh, a couple of trucks that I
have from business, one of 'em

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broke down and, you know, somebody
couldn't get to work on time and it

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broke down in like their driveway.

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So it was like, it didn't happen, you
know, somewhere where it could have been

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catastrophic because like the transmission
went out, you know, completely.

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And so, um, a lot of things,
you know, wouldn't, wouldn't,

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wouldn't work properly.

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Um, but, you know, I, I mean, for
me, I struggled with this for a

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long time with the divorce, um, you
know, to have gratitude for that.

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And it's, today I can see it.

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Um, you know, my former spouse,
like who she's with today, she's,

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she, you can see she's happy.

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So I'm happy for her, you know, in that.

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And, and she would've been one of those
three people that I was praying for, you

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know, that you do not adore, earlier.

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Because I was resentful and
ungrateful and so like, that to my,

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you know, it's emotional maturity.

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And I'm trying to think, you know, I,
I use Harvard quite a bit in a lot of

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studies, uh, but I wanna say this is
a Stanford study where it does talk

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about, um, I'm gonna get this mixed
up or whatever, but, you know, your

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ability to be emotionally mature.

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So to work on your emotional intelligence
in such a way that, um, it truly, you

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know, sharpens all aspects of your life
'cause it, it just, it cleans you out.

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It just has this effect when you, um,
well, just like, you know, being on

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podcasts, you know, like you talking,
well, me, or, or another person,

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or whatever, it's just that natural
conversation that I don't believe we're

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having anymore with people, you know?

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I mean, I think of my, my mom,
you know, she's got her best

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friends, they talk all the time.

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But, you know, that's, uh, a 1951
modelish group, you know, kind of thing.

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So like, they know how
they want to connect.

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They don't, you know, if I asked her,
You wanna get on a Zoom call mom?

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You know, she'd be like, I
don't, what, what's that?

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You know, kind of thing, you know?

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And she's like, I'll meet you at the cafe.

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And I'm like, Well, I'll get in the car
and see you in like five and a half hours.

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But, you know, it's, that's what
we're missing so much is to just truly

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connect with another human being.

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And know that like, you know, I
just, we all have like, feelings

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that create the emotions.

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And sometimes that's bad because we have
a feeling that invokes anger and then rage

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comes out and, you know, like that's where
that emotional maturity, that emotional

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intelligence comes into play to pause.

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I mean, I'll tell on myself today, moving
Lauren into the sorority, uh, you know,

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I, I'm a Chevy guy and I drive a big truck
'cause you know, I'm pulling trailers

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and stuff like that, and, uh, I parked
somewhere that, you know, I knew was like,

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we're supposed to park at this sorority,
but no one's moving in this sorority,

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so I just parked where I,
you know, where I wanted to.

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00:25:48,945 --> 00:25:51,195
Wrong answer, I know, where I wanted to.

426
00:25:52,395 --> 00:25:56,505
And so I was asked to move and they
said, Well, the rules say this.

427
00:25:56,505 --> 00:26:00,465
And so unfortunately I didn't
pause, I allowed my feelings to

428
00:26:00,465 --> 00:26:04,005
get in the way of my emotions and
I said, Well, I don't follow rules.

429
00:26:04,335 --> 00:26:08,175
And it wasn't a very good example for my,
well, yes, nineteen-year-old daughter.

430
00:26:08,175 --> 00:26:11,595
So I mean, she's old enough to make her
own decisions and does live on her own,

431
00:26:11,625 --> 00:26:16,155
but, um, I could have been a better
example, you know, in that moment.

432
00:26:16,245 --> 00:26:20,265
And so, you know, I wanna apologize to
Lauren, which I probably embarrassed

433
00:26:20,265 --> 00:26:23,085
her with who I was talking to 'cause
it's somebody who works at the

434
00:26:23,085 --> 00:26:25,785
sorority that she'll have to live
with or deal with all year long.

435
00:26:26,385 --> 00:26:30,135
Um, and then later on, you know,
I apologized to the person I made

436
00:26:30,135 --> 00:26:33,555
that comment to because it was rude.

437
00:26:33,615 --> 00:26:39,165
You know, I was being rude and ungrateful
and, you know, 'cause maybe I was

438
00:26:39,165 --> 00:26:41,805
hot and tired or whatever, you know?

439
00:26:41,835 --> 00:26:45,315
Like, whatever excuse you want to
have, it doesn't make it right.

440
00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:49,455
And so that to me is
where I reflect today.

441
00:26:49,455 --> 00:26:52,365
I always, you know, for years I've
called it the man in the mirror.

442
00:26:52,365 --> 00:26:54,975
But I'm like, Hey, you know, take
the mirror outta your back pocket,

443
00:26:54,975 --> 00:26:58,485
take a good look, who do you see
when you look in that mirror?

444
00:26:58,545 --> 00:26:59,985
Who's looking back at you?

445
00:27:00,525 --> 00:27:02,205
Are you proud of him or her?

446
00:27:02,505 --> 00:27:04,395
Like, and can you do better?

447
00:27:04,395 --> 00:27:05,745
Because we can always do better.

448
00:27:05,745 --> 00:27:09,165
We can always put in more work, we
can always make something better.

449
00:27:09,165 --> 00:27:12,795
Because just like myself, like,
like discipline over feelings.

450
00:27:12,795 --> 00:27:16,935
My feelings at times knowing like,
you know, for us like to hop on

451
00:27:16,935 --> 00:27:20,055
the show, like I was running back
and I was like, I gotta jump in the

452
00:27:20,055 --> 00:27:22,545
shower and I don't feel like this.

453
00:27:22,545 --> 00:27:24,765
But I made a commitment, I
said I was gonna do something.

454
00:27:24,765 --> 00:27:28,815
Here I am doing it and I'm
glad I am because I can feel

455
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:30,225
the spirit inside of me.

456
00:27:30,645 --> 00:27:36,255
That gratefulness for completing
a commitment and knowing that my

457
00:27:36,255 --> 00:27:42,015
testimony's gonna help someone else out
there and might get them to get off the

458
00:27:42,015 --> 00:27:43,955
couch and clean up after themselves.

459
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:48,420
It might, you know, they might go
volunteer, you know, tomorrow or

460
00:27:48,420 --> 00:27:50,100
whatever it may be, or this weekend.

461
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,190
And that to me is what matters is
like, you know, if we all take one

462
00:27:56,190 --> 00:28:02,340
step together, we can make this
all better at the end of the day.

463
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:05,520
That's right.

464
00:28:06,135 --> 00:28:08,010
I, I, I agree a hundred percent.

465
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:14,280
You know, and dedication to
you comes in little steps.

466
00:28:15,090 --> 00:28:18,540
I mean, just like you explained,
if you say you're going

467
00:28:18,540 --> 00:28:20,050
to be someplace, be there.

468
00:28:20,895 --> 00:28:27,345
If you can't be there, make every
effort and try to explain so you

469
00:28:27,345 --> 00:28:29,294
don't have somebody waiting on you.

470
00:28:29,455 --> 00:28:34,905
You know, there's accountability
and that emotional intelligence

471
00:28:34,905 --> 00:28:36,585
that you talk about is huge.

472
00:28:37,004 --> 00:28:42,345
Uh, I really think that a lot of
people are understanding that more

473
00:28:42,345 --> 00:28:47,895
now, and more people are hopping
on these podcasts and they are

474
00:28:47,895 --> 00:28:50,715
actually speaking of these problems.

475
00:28:50,835 --> 00:28:56,475
And this is how we start pushing
the cart in that direction

476
00:28:56,775 --> 00:28:59,055
by having conversations.

477
00:28:59,235 --> 00:29:05,805
Long form conversations, it's hard to
sit and listen to somebody, especially

478
00:29:05,805 --> 00:29:07,455
if you don't agree with them.

479
00:29:08,145 --> 00:29:13,475
But the more you train yourself
to just relax in the moment

480
00:29:13,915 --> 00:29:19,680
and listen, it is amazing the
discovery that comes out of that.

481
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:25,950
And it all starts with that
commitment, just showing up.

482
00:29:27,149 --> 00:29:29,280
And it, it really starts right there.

483
00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:38,700
So as we progress in podcasting, I, I
really think this is like a catalyst,

484
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:46,110
if you will, to something better,
the next stage or whatever it is.

485
00:29:47,010 --> 00:29:52,889
So how are you driving your podcast
right now, and what direction

486
00:29:52,889 --> 00:29:55,770
are you going with that podcast?

487
00:29:56,610 --> 00:30:00,810
Yeah, it's, it's definitely, you
know, it's, it's, uh, Christian

488
00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:08,030
faith-based, uh, it does focus on,
you know, um, you know, more so

489
00:30:08,030 --> 00:30:12,330
divorced families, blended families,
uh, those recovering from trauma.

490
00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:17,940
We, uh, you know, we kind of normally
do a couple of months, uh, where

491
00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:21,390
it's just Lisa and I and, and just
walking through what life looks like.

492
00:30:21,390 --> 00:30:26,430
You know, two post-divorced, uh,
folks with, you know, two adult

493
00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:28,440
kids each, and what that looks like.

494
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,400
And, you know, the trials and the
tribulations that families go through,

495
00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:37,080
you know, the aftermath and the
destruction and what that looks like.

496
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,110
And as, you know, like she's
healing, I'm healing, the kids

497
00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:45,300
are healing, you know, our exes or
formers are healing, our families.

498
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,980
You know, like everyone's like dreams
of what life was gonna look like, you

499
00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:54,450
know, all changed in a matter of, you
know, months and so on and so forth.

500
00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,210
And, um, you know, today it's, you
know, I have no idea where, you know,

501
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,370
the roads are taking us, but I, I
do know as I reflect, um, in looking

502
00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:11,195
at the podcast, it's definitely,
you know, trying to utilize, um,

503
00:31:12,044 --> 00:31:15,165
the, the lighted path, I guess
is what I look at it today.

504
00:31:15,165 --> 00:31:19,215
It's like, you know, and I was never
somebody who read the Bible, um,

505
00:31:19,695 --> 00:31:21,855
before, you know, for whatever reason.

506
00:31:21,855 --> 00:31:24,554
I know my mom was in Bible
studies, I don't ever remember

507
00:31:24,554 --> 00:31:25,845
seeing my dad read the Bible.

508
00:31:26,504 --> 00:31:30,195
And, um, you know, I had guys in the
military that worked for me and I'd be

509
00:31:30,195 --> 00:31:32,175
like, Oh geez, look at that Bible banger.

510
00:31:32,534 --> 00:31:36,435
And today when I reflect on it, I'm
like jealous that like I didn't get

511
00:31:36,435 --> 00:31:40,374
my stuff together, you know, five
years ago, ten years ago, fifteen

512
00:31:40,395 --> 00:31:41,804
years ago, whatever it looked like.

513
00:31:41,865 --> 00:31:46,575
And then I think about all the guys
that I led, um, and to see who's

514
00:31:46,575 --> 00:31:49,905
still in and their leading today.

515
00:31:49,965 --> 00:31:56,835
And I'm so proud of them, um, you
know, and I hope that I was not,

516
00:31:57,775 --> 00:31:59,035
you know, being a poor example.

517
00:31:59,055 --> 00:32:02,955
You know, use me however, my dad would
say this quite a bit, you know, use me

518
00:32:02,985 --> 00:32:06,615
however, you know, I should, as a good
example or a bad example, but, you know,

519
00:32:06,615 --> 00:32:09,075
just utilize me, you know, to where it is.

520
00:32:09,075 --> 00:32:11,715
There's a lesson to be learned
or it's a blessing, you

521
00:32:11,715 --> 00:32:12,735
know, however you look at it.

522
00:32:12,735 --> 00:32:17,145
And so, so I think for us, yeah, Lisa and
I, you know, we definitely focus on that.

523
00:32:17,145 --> 00:32:21,855
And then, you know, our guests always have
some form, like we had Tom Pfanner on a

524
00:32:21,855 --> 00:32:24,045
couple weeks ago, he does Dads who Lead.

525
00:32:24,045 --> 00:32:27,675
And I don't have his book to show it
and help promote him, but, you know,

526
00:32:27,675 --> 00:32:31,005
he had a son when he was in high
school and, you know, went through the

527
00:32:31,005 --> 00:32:34,125
whole, you know, how hard that can be.

528
00:32:34,185 --> 00:32:39,195
And it's amazing today that he leads,
uh, fathers and sons on retreats,

529
00:32:39,195 --> 00:32:41,895
weekend retreats where they do a
lot of different adventures together

530
00:32:41,895 --> 00:32:46,875
and how it tightens those bonds
very rapidly, uh, and so forth.

531
00:32:46,875 --> 00:32:50,205
And, and to know that, you know, he
made a lot of hard choices, him and

532
00:32:50,205 --> 00:32:54,375
his family, to, you know, make sure
that his son, you know, wasn't lost

533
00:32:54,375 --> 00:32:58,784
into the whole side of things when,
you know, I, I can't imagine, you know?

534
00:32:58,784 --> 00:33:03,254
I mean, I was like, uh, twenty-seven,
twenty-eight when we had Lauren and, you

535
00:33:03,254 --> 00:33:04,814
know, twenty-nine, thirty when we had Boo.

536
00:33:04,814 --> 00:33:09,945
So it's like, to me, I'm like,
Boy, I was like, you know,

537
00:33:09,975 --> 00:33:12,495
like, you, shoot, you had a teenager
when you were that age, you know?

538
00:33:12,495 --> 00:33:19,095
So, um, and we've had other guys, Brian
Bogart, like he, um, you know, was in an

539
00:33:19,095 --> 00:33:23,595
accident and uh, you know, his one arm
was torn off and, and then reattached.

540
00:33:23,595 --> 00:33:26,745
So, you know, he has a bit of a
deformity there, uh, in it and

541
00:33:26,745 --> 00:33:27,915
talking through that trauma.

542
00:33:27,915 --> 00:33:31,814
So, you know, the focus always is the
recovery side of it and knowing if you

543
00:33:31,814 --> 00:33:37,125
put the work in and you never give up,
like, you know, there's no pot of gold

544
00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:44,294
at the end of the rainbow, but there's a
beautiful, mysterious, uh, graceful light

545
00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:48,585
in it all that you just, I can describe it
in such a way 'cause it's just so amazing.

546
00:33:48,794 --> 00:33:52,215
You know, just to understand today
that, you know, not all days are

547
00:33:52,215 --> 00:33:56,294
sunshine and rainbows, but like, you
just know that like if you can live

548
00:33:56,294 --> 00:34:00,165
in a state of gratitude and your
attitude's always in that, like, you

549
00:34:00,165 --> 00:34:05,655
just, I mean, it's, you just gotta have
the ability to always go like, Okay.

550
00:34:06,074 --> 00:34:11,864
Like, I can come into this being
sour puss, angry, resentful, hurtful,

551
00:34:11,864 --> 00:34:14,775
I just think all the things that I, I was.

552
00:34:15,165 --> 00:34:18,234
And yeah, I, I mean, gosh,
I must have been just like a

553
00:34:18,234 --> 00:34:19,665
miserable person to be around.

554
00:34:20,145 --> 00:34:23,025
Maybe some people will say I'm still
a miserable person 'cause I, you know,

555
00:34:23,025 --> 00:34:26,924
preach discipline and growth over
comfort and all this other stuff too.

556
00:34:26,924 --> 00:34:31,815
But I only want it knowing that like, if
you put the work in, like there's so many

557
00:34:31,815 --> 00:34:36,944
just golden nuggets inside all of us that
are waiting to be, you know, found out.

558
00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:41,145
I mean, just, it's, you know, if we
just put a little bit of work, a little

559
00:34:41,145 --> 00:34:45,585
bit of discomfort, you know, in, you
know, like, I mean, I was fifty pounds,

560
00:34:45,585 --> 00:34:47,225
I gained fifty pounds after I retired.

561
00:34:47,225 --> 00:34:49,154
In seventeen months I gained fifty pounds.

562
00:34:49,725 --> 00:34:55,170
And, you know, today, you know, I,
I still got a little bit of it left.

563
00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:58,050
I think a lot of it's maybe turned
into muscle, which is a positive thing.

564
00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:02,250
But like, you know, it's just to, to go
like all those years of being disciplined,

565
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,180
um, in a way of just living, but
naturally it was part of the profession.

566
00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:09,570
You know, why can't we do
that today for businesses?

567
00:35:09,570 --> 00:35:12,930
Like, why is it all about like work, work,
work, work, work when you go to work?

568
00:35:13,410 --> 00:35:18,150
Like, why can't we allow people,
to pay them to work out, you know?

569
00:35:18,210 --> 00:35:22,770
Why can't we look at having a healthy
cafeteria, you know, at the corporate

570
00:35:22,770 --> 00:35:25,230
center for them to eat, you know, healthy?

571
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,920
And, you know, I acknowledge
like all the different things.

572
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,850
I mean, I've been on both sides of, of
that, you know, when it comes to budgeting

573
00:35:32,850 --> 00:35:34,500
and the bottom line at the end of the day.

574
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:40,500
But I just think about life and
know that, I think the final

575
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,090
thing for me was like money.

576
00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:44,880
It was just, you know, my God-sized hole.

577
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,790
Like, you know, I was like I filled
it with everything and I was like,

578
00:35:47,790 --> 00:35:52,170
Okay, when I make X, that God-sized
hole gets filled, you know?

579
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:54,570
And I finally, you know, started
to, you know, get paid to where I'm

580
00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:58,080
like, When am I gonna start feeling
better, you know, kind of thing.

581
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,570
'Cause you know, I'm making good
money, we got lots of stuff.

582
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,680
And, um, then it didn't, it, it didn't.

583
00:36:04,860 --> 00:36:09,660
And so that, for me, is really what
summed it up and realizing, you know,

584
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,180
it's the journey, not the destination.

585
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:17,550
It's one day at a time control
what Ryan can control and

586
00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:19,590
that is just Ryan, you know?

587
00:36:19,620 --> 00:36:23,280
That's all, all that he can control,
that's all that any of us can control.

588
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,950
Um, and, and knowing that if we smile
and, you know, just try to be a kind,

589
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:32,790
loving human being, you know, to
ourselves and everyone around us, like,

590
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:35,190
it just, it just keeps getting better.

591
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:38,970
Because, you know, it, just check out
the circles you're running in, you know,

592
00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:43,470
if, if, if, if you're, if you're somebody
that's miserable, you're probably hanging

593
00:36:43,470 --> 00:36:47,820
out in a miserable circle and y'all just
sit and complain about whatever isn't

594
00:36:47,820 --> 00:36:51,960
happening in your life, 'cause you, you're
not gonna put the work in, you know?

595
00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:55,950
Um, it, there's a lot of things and when
I look at that, that, that, to me now,

596
00:36:55,950 --> 00:37:01,890
today is, you just, you can't put yourself
back in those situations because, um, you

597
00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:05,280
know, unfortunately a lot of people don't
wanna see anybody succeed but themselves.

598
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,150
It's that selfish nature and, you know,
so get in circles where you're promoted

599
00:37:09,150 --> 00:37:14,250
to excel and do good and, um, yeah.

600
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,500
It's about as, that,
it's about that simple.

601
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:18,210
Yeah.

602
00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:19,020
Yeah.

603
00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:24,900
So it's almost two years since
you've had any issues with

604
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,660
addiction in your recovery.

605
00:37:28,050 --> 00:37:29,430
How does that make you feel?

606
00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:31,890
Uh, good.

607
00:37:32,430 --> 00:37:37,950
But I also know, like, I
don't, how do I put it?

608
00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:45,300
It's, it's something that like, I, you
know, I'm not, I always try to look at it

609
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:48,630
in such a way, it's like, you know, like,
I'm not gonna drink over it kind of thing.

610
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:53,580
Like in the, you know, it's like
I lost my job, I'm not gonna drink

611
00:37:53,580 --> 00:37:54,840
over it, you know, kind of thing.

612
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,410
Uh, I got divorced, uh, I'm
not gonna drink over it.

613
00:37:58,950 --> 00:38:02,850
Uh, one of my children, you know,
doesn't, you know, have a relationship

614
00:38:02,850 --> 00:38:05,040
with me, uh, not gonna drink over it.

615
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,080
It's, it's that side of
life, I guess, that, um,

616
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:18,060
I'm giving up one thing or two
things, uh, to have everything.

617
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:20,970
And so that's, that's
how I look at it today.

618
00:38:20,970 --> 00:38:26,270
It's like, you know, I guess it would
be if I, you know, if you, I mean, well,

619
00:38:26,270 --> 00:38:28,770
yeah, I gained fifty pounds, so it's
like, how do you lose fifty pounds?

620
00:38:28,770 --> 00:38:31,544
Well, it, uh, nutrition's a huge thing.

621
00:38:31,605 --> 00:38:35,774
So it's like, you know, I don't go
across the street, promote Hy-Vee since

622
00:38:35,774 --> 00:38:38,955
I live across the street, and for many,
many, many moons I'd go over there and,

623
00:38:39,285 --> 00:38:43,424
you know, eat my feelings away when
I, when I quit drinking kind of thing.

624
00:38:43,575 --> 00:38:48,254
And, um, you know, now it's like, I
don't even, I was telling Lauren that

625
00:38:48,254 --> 00:38:51,044
today, I was like, it was like, Sugar
doesn't even taste good to me anymore.

626
00:38:51,105 --> 00:38:54,765
Like, because you just, you
start to develop better habits.

627
00:38:54,765 --> 00:38:57,254
You know, it's like amazing
what vegetables, you know,

628
00:38:57,254 --> 00:39:00,585
I mean, I think there's this whole thing
moms, yeah, I know, mom, I'm listening.

629
00:39:00,645 --> 00:39:01,605
I did listen, you know?

630
00:39:01,634 --> 00:39:08,055
Like, uh, but, but where we, you
know, so I think getting back to that

631
00:39:08,085 --> 00:39:14,174
is where I really go, um, It's real.

632
00:39:14,205 --> 00:39:17,865
It it, it sounds terrible to make
it that simple 'cause it's not

633
00:39:17,865 --> 00:39:19,754
that simple, but it is that simple.

634
00:39:20,234 --> 00:39:25,095
Um, you know, it just, you just,
today I, I mean, I love it.

635
00:39:25,095 --> 00:39:28,035
I love all the folks that
like I get to have in my life.

636
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:31,980
That want to be in my life,
that choose, that choose Ryan.

637
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,470
You know, because it's one that,
I think before I was just always

638
00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:38,850
trying to make everybody happy.

639
00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:43,500
And, you know, when you have people
tell you you're too much, so then you

640
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,640
make yourself small, you know, you,
you shut yourself down, you go hide.

641
00:39:48,330 --> 00:39:51,240
You know, for me it was, you know,
everyone goes to bed at night, you know,

642
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,090
tuck the kids and give 'em a kiss, tell
'em you love 'em, and then, you know,

643
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,190
Oh, I'm gonna go down and watch some TV.

644
00:39:56,194 --> 00:39:59,460
And, you know, and just like, you know,
go to the beer fridge or, you know,

645
00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:05,160
whatever, go to the liquor cabinet, you
know, throw down some THC, you know,

646
00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:09,600
all the different things that, that I
was doing because I couldn't be myself.

647
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,830
And today I can be myself.

648
00:40:10,830 --> 00:40:15,029
And like, and it's, it's weird
because it's like, before I'd be

649
00:40:15,029 --> 00:40:16,650
like, I'm proud of myself, you know?

650
00:40:16,650 --> 00:40:20,370
And, but pride and ego wouldn't been
a thing of like, to run around with.

651
00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:23,670
Like, I don't have anything I look
like, I put like, Oh, look at my trophy,

652
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:24,930
look at my trophy, look at my trophy,

653
00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:25,830
you know, it's, kind of thing.

654
00:40:25,830 --> 00:40:26,670
It's like the books.

655
00:40:27,495 --> 00:40:34,845
Um, yeah, I'm grateful that, you know,
that I was able to publish a couple books,

656
00:40:35,445 --> 00:40:37,515
um, but I'm like, They can be better.

657
00:40:37,785 --> 00:40:40,755
You know, so I'm gonna like write a
third one and it'll be better, you know?

658
00:40:40,815 --> 00:40:42,425
I'm gonna write a fourth
one, it's gonna be better.

659
00:40:42,425 --> 00:40:44,415
I'm gonna write a fifth
one, it's gonna be better.

660
00:40:44,985 --> 00:40:47,985
Another side of it is, it's
gonna help people, you know?

661
00:40:47,985 --> 00:40:53,175
Like the first one, anybody that's
suffering, you know, addiction, divorce,

662
00:40:53,475 --> 00:40:57,735
estrangement, all of that, or whatever,
like, it's your guide to like, you

663
00:40:57,735 --> 00:41:01,935
know, it's me hopping in the hole
with you and going like, Let's, let's

664
00:41:01,935 --> 00:41:03,585
get through this together, you know?

665
00:41:03,585 --> 00:41:04,665
It's an easy read.

666
00:41:04,665 --> 00:41:07,695
It's like, I don't know, I
think 106 pages or something.

667
00:41:07,695 --> 00:41:11,835
Like, I think you can, eighty-five, ninety
minutes, you could probably read it.

668
00:41:12,225 --> 00:41:14,655
And then there's lots of stuff in
there that you'd want to keep because

669
00:41:14,655 --> 00:41:18,945
there's lots of steps, or goals, or
other things in there to help you out.

670
00:41:19,005 --> 00:41:23,805
But to me, I, I like The
Icarus Effect better because

671
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:27,270
this is one that I'm really
passionate about today.

672
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:29,910
It's like, and kind of calling us all out.

673
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:33,360
These, these, uh, these males, you
know, like, everyone's like, Oh, you're

674
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,509
an Airborne Ranger, you were a stud
and all this, blah, blah, blah, blah.

675
00:41:37,170 --> 00:41:40,170
And I'm like, I was a boy for
forty-five years of my life.

676
00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:43,650
I lied for forty-five years of my life.

677
00:41:44,009 --> 00:41:49,799
You know, I told the person that I
married for and, you know, I lied to

678
00:41:49,799 --> 00:41:51,600
her, you know, about all kinds of stuff.

679
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:55,080
And, you know, and, and when finally
like, you know, came toe to toe

680
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,940
to the end, then I like, you know,
November of 2023, like, it was like,

681
00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:02,610
you know, what, what are you doing?

682
00:42:02,610 --> 00:42:05,339
And I'm like, I, you know, laid
it all out, told her everything.

683
00:42:05,339 --> 00:42:09,000
And then obviously from there it
was, you know, time to, time to, you

684
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,140
know, basically, uh, you know, move
on in life and so on and so forth.

685
00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:15,569
But like, I had lied about everything.

686
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:19,230
You know, my fish is this
big, you know, kind of thing.

687
00:42:19,230 --> 00:42:22,050
For those who are listening, you
can't see that I'm doing the six

688
00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:24,240
inches to sixty inches kind of thing.

689
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:33,180
Uh, but I just, so frustrated to that end
of like, you know, like to be a man, like,

690
00:42:33,185 --> 00:42:36,390
you know, you have to tell that, you have
to be brutally honest no matter what.

691
00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:39,570
You know, I think Jordan Peterson, you
know, I've heard him speak a number of

692
00:42:39,570 --> 00:42:43,110
times now, and you know, the big one is
like, you know, by telling the truth,

693
00:42:43,230 --> 00:42:46,230
the absolute best case scenario happens.

694
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,570
You know, because if you lie, like
it just prolongs the inevitable.

695
00:42:51,660 --> 00:42:56,100
So all you're doing is just moving the
goal posts and the, and the, you know,

696
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,660
not in the direction you want them to.

697
00:42:57,660 --> 00:43:01,080
They just get further away and you
get more and more miserable and you

698
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,850
wonder what's going on in your life.

699
00:43:02,850 --> 00:43:06,840
And don't worry, somebody's listening,
somebody's taking notes as much as, you

700
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,990
know, as His son did, did die for us.

701
00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:12,000
Um, and there is mercy in all that.

702
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,560
But that doesn't, I don't believe that
doesn't mean that, we, uh, you know?

703
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,630
You have to repent, you have to
change, um, in your evil ways on, on

704
00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:26,190
this side of the turf otherwise, I, I
don't, I can't see it any other way.

705
00:43:26,190 --> 00:43:31,049
But yeah, to that end, The Icarus Effect,
it really gets, honing that emotional

706
00:43:31,049 --> 00:43:36,630
intelligence we talked about earlier and
really focusing on the tools necessary

707
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:41,940
to, you know, work on, well, just this
long form, you know, well, it starts

708
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:46,560
in short form, just literally to have a
conversation with a stranger, you know?

709
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,630
And, and then it moves further to
adapt into such a way that like you

710
00:43:51,630 --> 00:43:56,040
can have a consistent, you know,
more than ten, twenty, thirty minute

711
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,440
conversation, um, with another person.

712
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,920
And it's realizing too that like,
this is different 'cause this is an

713
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:06,180
interview, but if we were actually just
you and me having a cup of coffee, like

714
00:44:06,210 --> 00:44:10,650
I would be asking you questions like,
because I want to get to know you.

715
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,670
And that's where we all struggle, you
know, and I call it two ears, one mouth

716
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:18,870
if there's, for a reason, you know?

717
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:21,840
Shut this one, open this
one, and just listen.

718
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,750
You'd be amazed how much you
can learn from somebody else

719
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,460
that has, you know, knowing that
you have more years than I do.

720
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:33,270
Like, I'm curious, like, you know,
what was it like here, there, you know?

721
00:44:33,390 --> 00:44:37,620
I mean, my, my timeline goes back
to 1978 and I, and I don't remember

722
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:41,970
much, you know, probably for the
first ten years, um, to date.

723
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:46,440
And so it's like, yeah, you
know, what was life like here?

724
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,540
And well, you lived
there during that time.

725
00:44:48,540 --> 00:44:51,960
Like, I can read history books and
know this, but what was it really like?

726
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,560
What did you feel, see, smell?

727
00:44:55,620 --> 00:44:57,210
Like, what was that like?

728
00:44:57,810 --> 00:45:01,230
And, you know, so, and
we all have feelings.

729
00:45:01,470 --> 00:45:04,920
So it, you know, that one goes
into like everybody under the sun.

730
00:45:05,370 --> 00:45:06,780
You know, I don't care who you are,

731
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,020
like you treat everybody
with respect and kindness.

732
00:45:10,575 --> 00:45:14,625
Because like, at a minimum, that's
what they deserve until they show

733
00:45:14,625 --> 00:45:20,415
you that, you know, know your worth,
I guess, at the end of the day.

734
00:45:20,415 --> 00:45:23,475
Once they show you like that
they, you know, your worth, like,

735
00:45:23,475 --> 00:45:25,095
they're like, No, I'm sorry.

736
00:45:25,095 --> 00:45:26,235
Like, I'm gonna treat you this way.

737
00:45:26,235 --> 00:45:29,955
Then okay, then establish some
boundaries and give them the Heisman

738
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,875
and, and, and move out smartly, I guess.

739
00:45:31,875 --> 00:45:38,025
But yeah, to that end, you know, um, I do
enjoy, um, and I have to reread the books

740
00:45:38,025 --> 00:45:45,135
because, um, it's one of those where you,
I've, I'm focusing on the third book and

741
00:45:45,135 --> 00:45:47,295
making that is, is as good as it can be.

742
00:45:47,295 --> 00:45:51,375
You know, like the, the first two
books it, you know, like, like I said,

743
00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:55,695
grateful that they're part of, you
know, a collection now, or a series,

744
00:45:55,695 --> 00:45:56,625
or whatever you wanna call 'em.

745
00:45:56,625 --> 00:45:58,305
But, um, you know,

746
00:45:58,335 --> 00:46:00,945
the biggest thing is getting 'em in
the right hands so it can help people.

747
00:46:01,005 --> 00:46:02,865
That, that's the bigger thing, you know?

748
00:46:02,865 --> 00:46:06,525
Because I just, I see it time and
time again, you know, when you go to

749
00:46:06,525 --> 00:46:11,085
different, you know, hospitals, treatment
centers, so on and so forth, it's not

750
00:46:11,085 --> 00:46:14,685
about, you know, really focusing on
getting anybody better unfortunately.

751
00:46:14,745 --> 00:46:20,325
I didn't realize the impact that, um,
you know, alcoholism has on like, the

752
00:46:20,325 --> 00:46:25,755
workforce and, you know, how destructive
it is, uh, from a healthcare standpoint.

753
00:46:26,385 --> 00:46:30,345
Um, 'cause, you know, I was, I was
blessed, probably 'cause of my dad,

754
00:46:30,345 --> 00:46:32,085
no one, you know, I wasn't afraid.

755
00:46:32,775 --> 00:46:37,575
Um, I, well, I was afraid to admit
that I was like him, you know?

756
00:46:37,575 --> 00:46:41,265
I was afraid to admit I was an
alcoholic, um, prior to it all.

757
00:46:41,835 --> 00:46:47,655
But I think I wasn't afraid of going
to a meeting, getting in a circle,

758
00:46:48,435 --> 00:46:51,585
and, you know, I listened, obviously,
for the first number of meetings.

759
00:46:51,585 --> 00:46:55,785
But, you know, when it was time to like
share, I mean, I had a lot of shame.

760
00:46:56,985 --> 00:47:01,085
I still have a lot of guilt, but
the shame kind of finally lessened

761
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:04,140
'cause I realized like I have to
forgive myself and let that go.

762
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,750
Like I can carry the guilt around
a little bit, that's fine, you

763
00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:08,100
know, that's having a heart.

764
00:47:08,310 --> 00:47:13,020
Um, that's being like someone who,
you know, wants to be, wants to

765
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:15,390
be redeemed, wants to be kind now.

766
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:18,420
Uh, 'cause you can see
yourself and how ugly you were.

767
00:47:18,930 --> 00:47:24,000
Um, but the shame one, that keeps you,
like you were talking about, dark, you

768
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,820
know, scared, um, and just running.

769
00:47:27,330 --> 00:47:29,970
And so, yeah, absolutely.

770
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:33,720
That's kind of what life is, isn't it?

771
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:39,750
It's a chase, a game, and, you
know, it doesn't necessarily mean

772
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:41,340
that you're the winner at the end.

773
00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:45,210
It just means that you've
taken the time to play it.

774
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:51,270
And the game is always different
for the different people.

775
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:58,350
So I, I really agree, you gotta
slow down and enjoy yourself.

776
00:47:58,860 --> 00:48:04,080
It's, it's about the experience
and it's not about where you're

777
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,030
going or how you're getting there.

778
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:14,910
Uh, I like to concentrate on people now
because it helps me develop myself, and

779
00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:17,100
that's what brought me to podcasting.

780
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:22,950
And podcasting really helped me
develop these skills to shut up, shut

781
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:25,020
the one hole and open the other two.

782
00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:34,200
And it, it really does help you
experience life in ways that I, I

783
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,060
never thought was possible before.

784
00:48:37,275 --> 00:48:41,655
Ryan, is there anything else you wanna
share with us today before we end up?

785
00:48:43,425 --> 00:48:47,415
I was, uh, the only thing that popped
into my mind as you were kind of,

786
00:48:47,415 --> 00:48:52,155
you know, sharing that is just, you
know, I never liked reading books.

787
00:48:52,155 --> 00:48:56,925
It was never something that, you know,
for me, I was just like, my mom was

788
00:48:56,925 --> 00:49:00,075
a reading teacher, I was in third
grade getting ready to get held back

789
00:49:00,075 --> 00:49:02,865
and, you know, um, I couldn't read.

790
00:49:02,865 --> 00:49:06,585
I'd lied, I, here we go, going
back to lying, um, I'd lied about

791
00:49:06,585 --> 00:49:07,605
it, you know, kind of thing.

792
00:49:07,695 --> 00:49:10,815
I, I'd get picture books and tell
stories, you know, out of 'em.

793
00:49:10,815 --> 00:49:13,165
And it was like, wow, he's
really young to be reading.

794
00:49:13,225 --> 00:49:16,965
And so, you know,  I'd probably
cheated off everybody's tests and

795
00:49:16,965 --> 00:49:18,345
stuff like that to keep going.

796
00:49:18,345 --> 00:49:21,285
And finally it was found
out in third grade.

797
00:49:21,285 --> 00:49:24,885
And so my mom, like anything else,
she's like, You know, it'll be okay.

798
00:49:24,885 --> 00:49:26,565
We'll, you know, we'll put in the work.

799
00:49:26,565 --> 00:49:28,695
We'll, you know, we'll get
you help, We'll figure it out.

800
00:49:28,695 --> 00:49:29,175
And I did.

801
00:49:29,685 --> 00:49:34,550
I guess where I'm going with this is
the, the sense of humor that, I believe

802
00:49:34,690 --> 00:49:37,920
and, and we can all believe whatever
we wanna believe, but I, I believe

803
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:44,490
that the good Lord will protect us from
our greatest gifts until we're truly

804
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,650
mature enough to be able to hold them.

805
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,720
And so, you know, like I got my master's
degree at the Command of General

806
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,000
Staff College ten, twelve years ago.

807
00:49:57,030 --> 00:50:00,630
You know, so I read fifty, a hundred
books on leadership and, you know,

808
00:50:00,630 --> 00:50:02,550
wrote, wrote one on leader development.

809
00:50:02,670 --> 00:50:06,420
And it was funny 'cause it was, you
know, leader development, uh, let's

810
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:09,270
see, communication, trust, and legacy.

811
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:13,350
And, you know, I, I laugh as,
as we're getting through this

812
00:50:13,350 --> 00:50:16,830
and through our last forty odd
minutes of talking, you know, we've

813
00:50:16,830 --> 00:50:19,560
communicated, which is, is build trust.

814
00:50:19,890 --> 00:50:24,780
And knowing that a couple of podcasters
will continue to, you know, give this

815
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:27,390
out to others, you know, along the way.

816
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,190
And where I was gonna circle
back with the reading is,

817
00:50:33,134 --> 00:50:34,815
today I love to read, you know?

818
00:50:34,815 --> 00:50:39,465
I can't read enough to know that,
like somebody, if they write a book,

819
00:50:39,855 --> 00:50:43,464
you know, like I haven't got into
this one yet, but, uh, it's, uh,

820
00:50:43,485 --> 00:50:46,335
Peak Mind by Amishi Jha or whatever.

821
00:50:46,335 --> 00:50:52,275
But like, I'm just like, how many
books did he read to bring me 350

822
00:50:52,275 --> 00:50:55,275
pages and his life experience?

823
00:50:55,845 --> 00:50:56,775
Like that,

824
00:50:57,525 --> 00:51:02,055
you can, you can download somebody's
life in a book and how many

825
00:51:02,055 --> 00:51:03,674
other books that they've read.

826
00:51:04,215 --> 00:51:08,384
And it really just, I mean, I'm
just thinking of the doors that

827
00:51:08,384 --> 00:51:12,465
can open that you don't even
know exists inside of you yet.

828
00:51:12,495 --> 00:51:15,105
One, 'cause, yeah, you're
not emotionally mature.

829
00:51:15,105 --> 00:51:16,305
You're not emotionally intelligent.

830
00:51:16,305 --> 00:51:17,865
I'm sorry, that sounds harsh.

831
00:51:17,895 --> 00:51:18,555
I know.

832
00:51:18,884 --> 00:51:24,315
But what I'm trying to do is be that
catalyst, be that spark, whatever

833
00:51:24,315 --> 00:51:31,425
it looks like, because I know we
have an army out there of folks that

834
00:51:31,425 --> 00:51:33,825
your gifts are right, that close.

835
00:51:33,855 --> 00:51:40,815
Like you're one x away from whatever
it is, and you watch Netflix all night

836
00:51:40,815 --> 00:51:47,775
long, or, you know, you're one y and
you doom scroll, you know, on your phone

837
00:51:47,925 --> 00:51:50,025
all night long, whatever it may be,

838
00:51:50,415 --> 00:51:51,045
you know?

839
00:51:51,165 --> 00:51:54,135
Um, you know, it goes back
to discipline over feelings.

840
00:51:54,135 --> 00:51:56,025
And, and like I said, I,
I'm right there with you.

841
00:51:56,475 --> 00:52:00,165
Like, you know, if you follow me, uh,
on the world, you'll hear me get on

842
00:52:00,165 --> 00:52:02,765
there, you know, in the mornings and
I'm like, I do not want to do this.

843
00:52:02,795 --> 00:52:07,815
Like, I'm doing it 'cause I have to do
it 'cause otherwise I'll die if I don't.

844
00:52:07,875 --> 00:52:09,315
And, and what does that mean?

845
00:52:09,315 --> 00:52:13,095
Well, it, it just means that I will
go back to doing the same thing I was

846
00:52:13,095 --> 00:52:15,525
doing, you know, twenty odd months ago.

847
00:52:15,915 --> 00:52:22,215
And, um, that won't be good, it'll
hurt a lot of people, and it will,

848
00:52:22,215 --> 00:52:24,045
I'll just be a detriment to society.

849
00:52:24,555 --> 00:52:28,425
And, um, you know, maybe some folks
out there will be like, see, told

850
00:52:28,425 --> 00:52:30,105
you he couldn't do it, you know?

851
00:52:30,134 --> 00:52:33,705
And that, that's still one of 'em too,
maybe every once in a while it's like,

852
00:52:33,705 --> 00:52:39,285
Hey, you know, like, just gimme time
and, and I'll make, I'll make you proud.

853
00:52:39,345 --> 00:52:41,475
And it's just one of those,
and that's that side of it.

854
00:52:41,475 --> 00:52:44,654
So put in the work and, uh, yeah.

855
00:52:44,685 --> 00:52:47,775
Together we're stronger,
so let's do it together.

856
00:52:49,515 --> 00:52:51,645
That's right, that's right.

857
00:52:52,185 --> 00:52:59,055
You know, and a little bit more
value there is, I, I remember I used

858
00:52:59,055 --> 00:53:01,275
to live in Salt Lake City Valley.

859
00:53:01,485 --> 00:53:07,154
And I worked in Magna, Utah,
lived in Sandy, Utah, and

860
00:53:07,154 --> 00:53:08,865
it's way across the valley.

861
00:53:08,865 --> 00:53:10,875
I mean, miles and miles.

862
00:53:11,685 --> 00:53:24,015
And I was told, I'll be there at x o'clock
pm to pick you up and here, here X o'clock

863
00:53:24,015 --> 00:53:26,325
comes and nobody's here to pick me up.

864
00:53:26,325 --> 00:53:35,505
I have a choice to stand around and wait,
or I can start my way home and get there.

865
00:53:36,615 --> 00:53:40,275
I started my way home so I could get home.

866
00:53:40,755 --> 00:53:42,735
Don't, don't wait for somebody.

867
00:53:42,765 --> 00:53:50,175
Because if they're going to tell you
X this, and then you're waiting, how

868
00:53:50,175 --> 00:53:55,485
long are you going to wait before you
figure out it's an undependable person?

869
00:53:55,515 --> 00:54:04,155
The quicker you deduce your situation to
the most vulnerable, that's the answer.

870
00:54:04,635 --> 00:54:04,965
So.

871
00:54:06,135 --> 00:54:08,415
You're gonna, you're gonna
spark some stuff then here.

872
00:54:08,415 --> 00:54:11,145
Yeah, you're gonna open up
that one of like seeing one's

873
00:54:11,145 --> 00:54:13,665
potential versus their performance.

874
00:54:13,665 --> 00:54:18,375
And, you know, we, uh, that
can be something extremely

875
00:54:18,375 --> 00:54:20,415
detrimental to all of us.

876
00:54:20,415 --> 00:54:23,745
It's not, potential's potential.

877
00:54:23,745 --> 00:54:25,815
That doesn't mean it'll
ever happen, you know?

878
00:54:25,815 --> 00:54:29,535
So, you know, look at
performance, look at performance.

879
00:54:29,535 --> 00:54:32,775
How well has that person performed?

880
00:54:32,865 --> 00:54:37,545
You know, it could be, you know,
your partner, could be, you know,

881
00:54:37,605 --> 00:54:42,015
coworkers, subordinates, whatever
it looks like, friends, family.

882
00:54:42,525 --> 00:54:47,865
I mean, it's just one, like, you're always
like, oh, I know they can do better.

883
00:54:48,615 --> 00:54:49,455
Well, have they?

884
00:54:49,455 --> 00:54:50,865
You know, have they?

885
00:54:51,495 --> 00:54:53,025
And I get it 'cause I was one of 'em.

886
00:54:53,025 --> 00:54:59,415
I mean, I don't, I, I like, Ryan's
potential, way up here, whatever,

887
00:54:59,415 --> 00:55:03,465
Ryan's performance, like was
well, way down here, you know?

888
00:55:03,465 --> 00:55:08,595
But, so, so, yeah, today it's like, you
know, actions speak louder than words.

889
00:55:08,595 --> 00:55:12,855
Just, you know, keep putting
the work in, keep, keep, keep

890
00:55:12,855 --> 00:55:14,205
your nose to the grindstone.

891
00:55:14,265 --> 00:55:15,945
You know, it's okay to rest too.

892
00:55:15,945 --> 00:55:17,025
It's okay to take a break.

893
00:55:17,654 --> 00:55:23,355
And, uh, yeah, we could talk forever
and it, it, it's totally okay to fail.

894
00:55:23,355 --> 00:55:24,674
We all make mistakes.

895
00:55:24,674 --> 00:55:30,834
Like I, you know, like I said, The, the
stuff that I've done, terrible things.

896
00:55:30,834 --> 00:55:37,815
And know that, um, I'll repent and change
and, um, just do better, just do better.

897
00:55:38,830 --> 00:55:41,805
Ryan, thank you so much
for being here today.

898
00:55:42,045 --> 00:55:46,725
Could you tell people how to
get ahold of you, work with you,

899
00:55:46,785 --> 00:55:48,645
and a call to action for people?

900
00:55:49,755 --> 00:55:50,805
Yes, absolutely.

901
00:55:50,805 --> 00:55:51,765
So, uh, yeah.

902
00:55:51,765 --> 00:55:54,674
First off, uh, Our Protector
Development is probably the

903
00:55:54,674 --> 00:55:57,870
most centralized, uh, place.

904
00:55:57,870 --> 00:56:02,200
So ourprotectordevelopment.com, uh, you
can, you know, shoot me a discovery call.

905
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,990
I'm not gonna cost you
anything, we can certainly chat.

906
00:56:05,220 --> 00:56:06,620
Uh, first time's always free.

907
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,850
And, uh, you know, if you wanna order
any of the books, uh, you know, Amazon,

908
00:56:11,850 --> 00:56:17,280
Barnes and Noble, Target, walmart.com,
any of the dot coms that are out there.

909
00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:20,730
Uh, The Icarus Effect, if you want it
right now, you would have to email me.

910
00:56:20,730 --> 00:56:23,310
So yeah, just go to
ourprotectordevelopment.com and shoot me

911
00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:27,960
an email from there, uh, with your name,
address, and, uh, we'll link things up

912
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,910
to get payment and all that good stuff.

913
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:36,060
But, uh, yeah, the big one's, uh, is, uh,
Our Healer, Our Protector, um, on YouTube.

914
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:39,990
You can watch, you know, any
of our, uh, podcasts out there.

915
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,980
And so, uh, but if you wanna follow me
on social media, it's Ryan T Reichert

916
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:46,260
on Facebook, LinkedIn, all that stuff.

917
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:49,780
Or Army RT 1978 for
like Instagram, TikTok.

918
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,960
Trying to think what
else I have out there.

919
00:56:52,845 --> 00:56:55,905
I don't know, it's either Ryan
T Reichert or Army RT 1978.

920
00:56:56,475 --> 00:57:01,185
And, uh, yeah, I just, uh, you
know, I'm here to help and so

921
00:57:01,185 --> 00:57:02,685
that's really what it comes down to.

922
00:57:02,685 --> 00:57:07,005
So anybody out there that this
resonates with you, like, you know,

923
00:57:07,005 --> 00:57:10,095
let's, let's get you help, let's
get you in the right direction.

924
00:57:10,605 --> 00:57:15,525
Um, 'cause not all of us have, you
know, or we don't feel, and I'm gonna

925
00:57:15,525 --> 00:57:19,065
talk about feelings here, we don't
feel that anybody's looking out for us.

926
00:57:19,065 --> 00:57:21,165
Don't worry, someone's
looking out for you.

927
00:57:21,405 --> 00:57:22,935
You just haven't met him yet.

928
00:57:23,025 --> 00:57:30,405
And so keep your chin up and be kind
'cause uh, He loves you and I love you.

929
00:57:30,405 --> 00:57:32,055
So, I appreciate it.

930
00:57:32,385 --> 00:57:32,925
Thanks, Ed.

931
00:57:34,575 --> 00:57:35,175
Amen.

932
00:57:35,475 --> 00:57:37,245
I, I like that a lot, Ryan.

933
00:57:37,545 --> 00:57:41,805
Uh, thank you for being here,
sir. And one more time, thank

934
00:57:41,805 --> 00:57:42,915
you for your service, sir.

935
00:57:43,305 --> 00:57:43,845
Thank you.

936
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:08,070
You walk through fire, war, the way,
of battles far and choices made.

937
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:15,720
From broken roads to brighter days,
grace met him in amazing ways.

938
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:22,180
The chains that held him fell
away, when mercy called his name.

939
00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:41,720
From battlefield to boardroom floor,
through addiction's chains reborn to know.

940
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,830
Ryan leads where God commands,
our protector heals broken lands,

941
00:58:43,830 --> 00:58:48,835
service, faith, and second chance,
he's living proof of Heaven's

942
00:58:52,295 --> 00:58:53,165
plans.

943
00:58:54,785 --> 00:59:05,060
Every scar tells of the fight,
every wound that's brought to life

944
00:59:07,275 --> 00:59:13,675
becomes a place where love breaks
through, making something strong and new.

945
00:59:13,675 --> 00:59:20,965
He stands for those who've lost their way,
a voice that says you're not too late.

946
00:59:21,615 --> 00:59:25,085
From battlefield to boardroom floor,

947
00:59:27,335 --> 00:59:28,225
through

948
00:59:30,234 --> 00:59:35,305
addictions

949
00:59:37,955 --> 00:59:40,685
chains reborn to know.

950
00:59:41,115 --> 00:59:54,725
Ryan leads where God commands,
our protector heals broken lands,

951
00:59:54,725 --> 01:00:07,264
service, faith, and second chance,
he's living proof of Heaven's plans.

952
01:00:07,284 --> 01:00:21,684
In the broken soul, he understands, he's
been down low, he's reached for hands.

953
01:00:22,294 --> 01:00:26,274
For in love he turned them
around, now healings searched,

954
01:00:26,274 --> 01:00:26,724
picked up off the ground.

955
01:00:26,724 --> 01:00:36,570
From Battlefield to boardroom floor,
through addictions chains reborn to know.

956
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:15,750
Ryan leads where God commands,
our protector heals broken lands,

957
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:17,780
service, faith, and second chance,
he's living proof of Heaven's plans.

958
01:01:17,780 --> 01:01:18,660
He's living proof of Heaven's plans.

959
01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:19,509
Second chance in God's own hands.