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Today we are speaking with
Clarity Consultant, Kyle Smith.

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He has a podcast, Limitless Life Podcast.

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Kyle, could you please introduce
yourself and let people know a

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little more about you, please?

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Sure, sure.

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Uh, like, like you mentioned,
my name is Kyle Smith.

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Uh, I'm a Clarity Consultant,
that's what my role is.

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Uh, and I help folks get unstuck,
celebrate their wins, and, uh, create

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goals that inspire them, and get
them done in less time, in short.

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That's, that's kinda nice
because we all get stuck, and

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we need help a lot of the times.

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I actually want to go on a mass
conversation with you, but I do want

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you to cover what NLSE is for people
before we get into our conversation.

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Yeah, sure.

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NLSE is a practice that I've developed
over the last couple of years and it's a

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combination of story work and breath work.

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It's to hit the brain and to hit the body.

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And breaking it down, NLSE, neuro
linguistic somatic experience.

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Starting with the N, it's neuro, meaning
of the mind, also of the nervous system,

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the neurons, and specifically what
I help folks with is their mindset.

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And mindset is important, we
understand that mindset is important.

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However, there's not a working
definition, so it's ambiguous,

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there's nothing to reference.

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So I define mindset as the stories
we tell ourselves about ourselves

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or our opinion of ourselves.

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Now, when we have that, we can
think higher or lesser of ourselves

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and we can adjust accordingly.

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Uh, so that's diving into the neuro.

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Then the linguistics, the language,
are the things that we say,

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write, think, and how we breathe.

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Breath is the language of the body.

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So for the words part, with the
stories, uh, what we say, write, and

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think, uh, words, and before this
I was a personal trainer, so I used

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fitness references, and this one is,
uh, similar to how the physical body,

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is built up off of macronutrients,
carbohydrates, fats, and proteins.

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The quality of the carbohydrates,
and fats, and proteins that we

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consume is going to impact or
influence the state of our body.

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Our words are no different, words are
the ethereal macronutrients of the mind.

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If we feed our mind quality words,
we're going to have quality thoughts.

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If we feed our mind shit words,
we're going to have shit thoughts.

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And so it's getting people to
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the words that they're saying.

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Uh, how about, uh, the breath
is the language of the body.

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When we're breathing high and
tight, we're good to fight.

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When we're breathing low and
slow, we're good to flow.

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So when we can take a second, and
we could be in a certain setting

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where we're good, we're comfortable.

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And then we take a notice of ourselves
and we're breathing up into our chest,

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we have shallow breath, and our body
could be saying something to us like

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there's something, there's something here.

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And then we can look around,
we can say, No, we are safe.

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Big breath in, let it
out and down, regulate.

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So it's like if, uh, if our physical body
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like look at this, look at this, look at
this, look at this, look at this, look

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at this, and it's like, no, no, no, we
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Let's, let's calm it down.

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Let's calm it down.

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And so with the breath, we can talk
to our body and our body can speak

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to us and we can have a conversation.

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So that's how linguistics ties in.

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Uh, somatic, soma, is of the body.

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And that's the physical body, which
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actively get involved with many things.

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So for example, uh, we cut our finger.

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Our body is time bound, it's
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It doesn't involve us.

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Uh, there's other aspects of our body,
like the autonomic nervous system,

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where we don't get any involvement.

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It's completely passive, minus the lungs.

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The lungs are the only thing that is a
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So our heart, our breathing,
our digestion, our recovery, uh,

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bowel movements, all of these
things are, we don't really

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need to actively get involved.

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Uh, it'd be kind of weird where
if I was sitting here and I, I

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was like, Hold on two seconds.

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Okay, yeah, I totally stopped my
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That doesn't happen.

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The breath we can get in there, the
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Uh, and so the physical body, that's
passive, where we can just recover.

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And then there's the energetic
body that is timeless.

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And the energetic body
would be, uh, our emotions.

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So emotion, energy in motion.

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And that's timeless, it's not time bound.

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So over time it doesn't recover itself.

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So with those stories, those experiences,
those moments, whether they hurt, haunt,

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taunt, annoy, they're ones that we
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or we're working towards something.

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They're gonna have, uh,
feelings attached to them.

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And if those feelings have lingered long
enough, they're going to stay in the body.

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And we could experience something from
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as if we're there, which is not accurate.

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And so when we go into the energetic
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into the mind, to be able to alleviate
our body of all this pent up energy,

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of all this negative narrative, all
this talk, uh, all the smack talk,

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it's not even self talk, it's just
smack talk, when we start to filter

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through all those, then what happens is
we shift how we feel about ourselves.

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We feel in the moment, different.

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And so NLSE, Experience,
E, it happens real time.

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People feel the experience
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Uh as they do this practice.

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I like that a lot.

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I've, I've been studying and
practicing NLP for quite some time.

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And it really piqued my interest
when that, NLSE, what, what is this?

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So thank you for sharing that, Kyle.

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It was very interesting.

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Uh, I want to talk to you about our world.

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Because I can tell Kyle is a very
deep thinker and, you know, the

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stoic thought really helps our world.

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Mass overload, our world is
just filled with everything.

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And, you know, we, we, consume so
much information, and luxury, and

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goods, and, you know, beach trips
and everything is just massively

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overloading our sensories, our mind.

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And I have found out over the last
ten to twenty years, less is way more.

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And, and if we bring it back to ourself
and we, like you've kind of laid out

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there, if we just slow down, and we
don't have to get involved with all

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of that, and know that, that you're
okay if you're not part of everything.

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I want to talk a little bit
about that and what are your

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thoughts on that subject, Kyle?

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That is such a cool question, dude.

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Uh, and it's something
that I have thought of.

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Uh, I think that there is a
lot of noise and distraction.

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And it's, I believe that when we are
trying to be a part of everything, we're

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not choosing to be a part of something.

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Because we're spreading ourself
too thin, and we're not going to

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be able to, be able to be a part
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So what I find is folks want to bring
awareness to everything, they don't

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want to actually solve the problem.

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So I think that what decreases
distraction is when we find a problem

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that we actually want to work on,
so our problem becomes our passion.

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And when we're a part of that
problem solving, then we don't

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need to worry about distractions.

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And, honestly, I heard this one, uh,
my lady told me it the other day,

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coach of ours actually shared it, and
he referred it to food, but I believe

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it applies to everything, Where the
more exciting life gets, and he said

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food, the more simple food gets.

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We can expand that, The more exciting
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Or more exciting life gets,
the more simple life gets.

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And when we have all this information
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to be a part of everything, I
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People can do that if they wish, but
I don't think it's actually useful.

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It's not being a part of it if
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I think start one thing, solve the
problem, do the next thing, solve

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the problem, do the next thing.

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And have those problems be things
that you're really excited to solve.

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Because it alleviates a pain of some
sort from either the self or others.

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When it comes to the amount of
information, I think that it's very, it's

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important to be mindful and intentional
with the information that we're consuming.

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Because if we're consuming information,
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it's not personal information.

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It's personalized information.

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We're just seeing information to validate
our own perceived biases unless we've

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trained the algorithm to do otherwise.

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Because we can train our algorithm to
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And say I don't want to watch this,
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impacts me in this way, that way,
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distractions as much as possible.

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And by uncluttering and decreasing
the amount of stuff, I actually,

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saying it with the similar idea of
stories, when we declutter the mind,

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we have room to throw the party.

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When we declutter our life, we have
room to throw a fricking party.

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And we can really like
do some good, good work.

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that would be one of my
thoughts on it for sure.

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Yeah, that, that's a good discovery.

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Yeah.

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You know, the, the discovery of
that is very important for people.

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And once they break free from
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they can really hone in and
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For instance, I have a big, big plan
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can't achieve all of that at one time.

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So I have to break that down and
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said, finish that, get it working
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And if I concentrate on each
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pretty soon, every problem is solved.

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And you have wasted no time on the spin
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And I think that mass overload,
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much in one day, and I see so many
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I have to have this done today.

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Well, I remember my
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The 7P principle, Proper Prior Planning
Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

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And I, I really, I really
believe in that principle.

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And once I took a hold
of that, my life changed.

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And I really think that planning and,
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prior preparation, that's very important.

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Totally.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I totally agree with that.

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And there was another
thought that popped up here.

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Uh, one point that I wanted to
say, there's a, a definition for

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intelligence that I really like that
has its practical definition of it.

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This was three weeks ago that I first
heard this, and I really like this one.

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An, or uh, the definition of intelligence,
an individual that can solve problems.

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The better the person is at
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intelligent the individual is.

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Yeah, that's good.

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It's the same with leadership.

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You know, you're a good leader
if you can solve problems.

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And we, we realize solving
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a team to solve the problem.

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And that's why communication is
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our world is about communication.

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And our body is communicating
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that we do is a communication.

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And a lot of people forget
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There's, there's people really doing
some things that, I feel, is pretty

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detrimental to our society in many ways.

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How do we handle the decline of
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the inclination of our society?

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Ooh, a reflection question on this one.

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How am I contributing to the downfall?

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How am I contributing to the solution?

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You know,

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because I, because if we're not actively
in it, then it's passively happening.

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And I believe that when we're not
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we've veered towards psychic entropy.

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We veer towards chaos.

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Chaos is the natural order if
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And it's similar to if someone
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people can be upset with this,

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I don't think it's that crazy, I
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mirror, they know when they're being
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They know when they've improved
today and when they've slacked today.

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And I believe being honest, am I being
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Because there's an idea that
I like where, uh, it's how

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there's optimism and pessimism.

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And a core characteristic of a pessimist
is not seeing the potential in the future.

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An optimist is a person
that's a part of the solving.

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An optimist is a part of the
problem solving towards the future.

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So when someone's a part of the
solution, then they see the solution.

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When someone's a part of the
problem, they only see the problem.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, it takes teamwork to
fix what's going on in our world.

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And so, so many people are caught
up into a financial competition.

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And I, I really, you know, everybody
needs money, but I, I think we all

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need more humanity in our world, and
understanding, and caring for one another.

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And that means building trust
and empathy at the same time.

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And I'm finding that harder and
harder to grasp in these days.

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And I'm, I'm just interested on
other people's thoughts on that.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Uh, shift the focus.

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I'm going to answer it on the fly
because this is a cool question.

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The, the simple, and it's the simple one.

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It'd be to shift the focus from
vanity metrics to metrics that matter.

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So we can, we can have like bank
account measuring contests all we want,

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but if the quality of the character
and the merit of the character is

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not stellar, then it's not going to
matter how much money someone has.

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Because I don't think that is the
amount of money that brings out the

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person, I believe that money just
shows who the person was to begin with.

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Uh, and so I think that the focus
would be for decreasing vanity metrics,

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and then it'd be increasing more of
the fulfillment and the feels aspect.

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So money is, there's numbers, it's
tangible, it's scientific, there's

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metrics, it's easy to measure.

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How good someone feels on the inside
is a little bit more difficult.

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And so when we have more people that are
aware that they feel better in general,

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and they're pursuing them, like the goal
that they want to, then people are going

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to veer towards each other that way.

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And so when we actually shift our focus
from, or, we can even, we can maintain

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an importance of financials, and that's
totally fair, as long as we don't

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remove the soul from the character.

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The consciousness, the heart, the, it's
kind of, it's similar to, other than,

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other than, you know, Tony Stark's
actual response, but similar to Avengers,

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Take away the armor, what are you?

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Take away the money, who are you?

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Take away the Lambo, who are you?

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Uh, give the person money, who are you?

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Right?

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Works in both directions.

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Of course, Tony Stark's a
billionaire playboy philanthropist,

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but you know, you know, whatever.

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I think when we take away the
armor, what's, what's left is the,

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the truest version of ourselves.

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And I believe that when things are
stripped away and, even if it's not

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like literally, even if there's a
metaphorical break, like let's say

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it's a weekend retreat or a session
or something like that where it's not

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even of importance and it's about,
or, communication, collaboration, and

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elevation, then the, the group itself
is going to be a bunch of rock stars.

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Well, we're really caught up in
financial competition instead of

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freedom of our mind, our soul.

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And we, we really need to have
people come together without

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that financial competition.

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How do we do that?

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Absolutely, I would say so.

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And then I would also say that
the vulnerable point could be

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different depending on the person.

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So someone could have all the financial
accolades while also feeling loss

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in their own sense of, uh, their
own, they're, they're diving into

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their own winter arc. They're diving
into their own, uh, dark story.

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They're diving into that point
where it's going to be like, this

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is going to be the time to prove it.

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Uh, and then on the opposite end,
if someone has nothing, then that's

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an opportunity to prove it as well.

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I, yeah, that's how I would put that one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, so basically the, the best time to
really truly know who someone is, is when

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they're at their most vulnerable point.

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Is that correct?

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Yes, it's true.

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It's true.

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I actually have a, this is my own
little mantra, my own little story that

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I remind myself if I'm really like,
if I find myself in a, in the Stuck

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and Suck, I remind myself of this,
and it's, Pain is the blacksmith that

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forges us into the ultimate weapon.

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We start out as iron ore, and we're all
misshapen, and we're in the earth, and

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we're comfy, we're cozy, we're sheltered
by the elements, and then either by

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choice or by chance, we're found.

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So either by choice or by chance,
we're ripped out of the ground, or by

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choice, we allow ourselves to be found.

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Ooh, that like flowed real well.

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Damn.

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Uh, yeah.

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It hasn't flowed, it didn't, it
didn't flow that well in my brain.

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Like, uh, a couple, well, last time
I said it, that one was way cooler.

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Uh, and so, from that point, the
iron ore is melted down, it's put

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into, I'll use a sword as an example,
it's put into the mold for a sword.

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Then that sword is heated up, it's
beaten, it's cooled down, it's sharpened,

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it's heated up, it's cooled down, it's
beaten, it's sharpened, rinse and repeat.

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Until eventually the pain that
the blacksmith has incurred forges

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you into the ultimate weapon.

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You become your own Excalibur.

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So you go from iron ore to
Excalibur, and then from Excalibur,

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you have a knight that's ready to
go fight the, fight the dragons.

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And the dragon is in the way of the gold.

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The dragon is the story,
the gold is what we want.

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And when we take that sword and we
fight that dragon, we feel pain.

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There's like an Uhh!

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And that's because that dragon is our
present self wanting to stay the same.

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So by inflicting that pain, we're forging
ourselves, we're sharpening ourselves.

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And it's not crazy, it's
not a huge amount of pain.

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And pain, when people think of it,
it's like, Oh, it's excruciating.

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No, it's just discomfort.

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And just, it's all good.

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It's all good.

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I'm sure you've lived
through crazier shenanigans.

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Uh, and then from there, I actually
think of it where rather than

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slaying the dragon, rather than
slaying the story, own the story.

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Become the Dragon Rider.

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So you get the Dragon Ride, you get to be
the Dragon Rider, and you get the gold.

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And that's by taking the stories,
owning the stories, and then allowing

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them to no longer have power over us.

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And we have power over them.

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And stories are experiences, memories,
moments, uh, traumas, hurts, haunts,

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taunts, ouchie stories, awesome
stories, death stories, dreams.

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I've done a couple things.

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Yeah, it all builds into an inspiration.

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And, and once you find that
inspiration, it is a passion.

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And I found once you hone into
that and start doing it, that's the

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trick, doing it, and you turn that
passion into remarkable things.

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It can, it can change the world,
even if it's one story at a time.

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And that's kind of what we do with
podcasting, you know, we, we learn to

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bring out the best instead of the worst.

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We can focus on all of that, but
when we get on the microphone and

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we start presenting to people,
it's really about the passion

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that we have to change the world.

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There's something wrong
in our eyes, our feeling.

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And that's what we're trying to do,
there is no competition in that.

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That's just, that's that community.

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You know, when, when we find community
in that, that's when we really can

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start being the best we can be.

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Agreed, agreed.

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And I do think that, like when we find
the community, it's also an extension

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of the work that we've done ourselves.

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Uh, cause game recognizes game.

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When people are pursuing something
where they want to do their part to

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be a positive contribution to the
human race, then what happens is, when

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we're that better person, then we're
going to attract more better people.

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And those people that are not helping
us towards our, or supporting us

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towards our pursuit, they will just
fall to the side and that's okay.

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And that's okay.

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That's right, that's right.

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You know, I, I have this muddy shoe
theory and, We, we are like a shoe

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and life is like a muddy trail.

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And the mud is people, places, and things.

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As we walk down this muddy trail,
you've been hiking before in mud,

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I'm sure, and you know how heavy
your boots can get, sometimes it's

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time to stop and wipe the mud.

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The good mud's gonna stay with you up
in them crevices, they know where to be.

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And the bad mud, it's, take
time often and scrape it off.

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That way you can walk down that trail
and make it further and have less

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exhaustion because you're taking the
time to wipe the mud from your shoes.

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And that's the muddy life, muddy
shoe life theory that I have.

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So people, places, and things, they,
they are the things that influence

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us, control us, or make or break us.

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And we need to be able to control that.

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So wipe it off.

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That's, that's my theory of all of that.

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Uh,

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Yeah, you do.

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I like people spreading that
because it really is the case.

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The mud is people, places,
and things, control the mud.

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So yeah, we, we really
need to change our world.

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And I recognize from your podcast that
that's what you're doing, you're out there

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trying to influence people in the right
way instead of, to just grab their money.

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And that really matters in
our world the most today.

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And that's why I enjoyed when
you popped onto the screen.

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Yeah.

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I want to talk to Kyle, that's for sure.

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And getting deeper into what Kyle
does, it's kind of remarkable.

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We, we have a lot of the mindset in
sync, and I think the focus is humanity.

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Mm.

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Mm hmm.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, I totally agree.

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And there was a translation that
popped up in my brain when you

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said, it was, Change our world.

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Take out the L, Change our word,
and add S. It's not Change the

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world, it's Change our words.

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Mm. Yeah.

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That's, that matters a lot.

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Uh, I'm, I'm finding
that out more and more.

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Because I used to not think about
what I said, I would just flop it out.

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And the harm that that does
to people that's close to you,

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it really does matter a lot.

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So, you know, living life is, is a joy and
you can have abundance in so many ways if

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you find, to be just a simple person in
life instead of needing to be a rock star.

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Let, let the rock star just happen.

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I think that's a better way to flow.

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I agree.

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I like that, I like that quite a bit.

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Yeah, allow the rock star to happen.

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Yes.

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Because then, because then it
really gets, yeah, I like that.

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That's very nice, it's a good visual.

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Yeah.

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So, so what is your
focus on the world, Kyle?

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What, what is the most disrupting
part of the world that you find people

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need to focus on to implement change?

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00:30:02,435 --> 00:30:07,054
Uh, the problem that I see is also
a problem that I've experienced, and

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it was a dependency on the external
world to fulfill my needs and desires.

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Uh, I think that there's, I think that
we, now, couple points on this one.

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No, actually no, going with this one.

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A majority of what we learn in school is
what to think rather than how to think.

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And so when we leave school, we're still
trained to just do what we're told.

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So when we go into the
workforce, it's basically an

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extension of our school course.

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Or school force, there we go.

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And the thing that's dangerous
with that is there can be,

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uh, internal, uh, conflict.

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Because folks have been adopting stories
that other people have said, you want

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to go to school, you want to go to post
secondary, you want to get married, you

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want to, uh, have a job, you want to have
kids, you want to have school, you want to

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have a car, and then you'll hit retirement
at the age of sixty-five or seventy.

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And what you can find is that folks
will get to that end point, and then

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they're going to be, they're not going
to know who they are because so many

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other people told them who they are.

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So when we decrease dependence on other,
on the external world, period, just

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external world, when we decrease the
expectation for the external world to

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tell us who we are, that presents us the
opportunity to figure out, and not even

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00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:39,630
figure out who we are, it's to remove
the stories that we've adopted to show

452
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,890
the rock star, to show who we truly are.

453
00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:46,920
Cause it's, uh, the stories are
like the mud, they're just adopted

454
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,035
stories that we've carried.

455
00:31:49,155 --> 00:31:52,395
And then we can remove the stories and
figure out, and not even figure out,

456
00:31:52,395 --> 00:31:55,045
I keep on saying figure out, but it's
not true, it's, because the person's

457
00:31:55,055 --> 00:32:00,555
already there and it's just removing the
layers to allow that person to shine.

458
00:32:01,395 --> 00:32:05,775
And I truly believe that most
peeps are well intentioned.

459
00:32:06,285 --> 00:32:06,905
And

460
00:32:09,005 --> 00:32:13,455
they have so much possibility and
so much potential, and they have

461
00:32:13,455 --> 00:32:18,755
so much heart, and they have such a
desire to help, and they have these

462
00:32:18,765 --> 00:32:22,964
stories that are, or these narratives
that are lingering in their mind

463
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:26,550
that is creating resistance
for them to make progress.

464
00:32:26,550 --> 00:32:31,030
And it's a fear, it could be a
rejection, it could be a self sabotage

465
00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:34,590
or procrastination, which I would
define as actively participating

466
00:32:34,590 --> 00:32:35,800
and preventing our progress.

467
00:32:36,510 --> 00:32:41,450
Uh, and when we figure out the
resistance, remove the resistance.

468
00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:47,560
Then we can allow us, ourself,
with capital S, to shine through.

469
00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:50,159
So, it's the, I want

470
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,139
sovereign, savage servants.

471
00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:58,709
I want folks that are autonomous
out there, thinking for themselves,

472
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:03,119
knowing that they are on a journey,
that they're bettering themselves,

473
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,980
they're continuously bettering
themselves, and they're bettering the

474
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:07,760
world around them as a side effect.

475
00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:11,160
The world is just going to
happen as a side effect.

476
00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:13,915
If they're freaking crushing
it, they absolutely can.

477
00:33:14,385 --> 00:33:18,375
So I, it's the adoption
of other people's stories.

478
00:33:19,215 --> 00:33:22,135
And another thing as well is,

479
00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:28,700
when people, to get people thinking
about their thinking, they become more

480
00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:31,370
questions people than statements people.

481
00:33:31,420 --> 00:33:34,020
They ask more questions than
they want to give statements.

482
00:33:34,550 --> 00:33:39,039
Because when we start to think
about our thinking, we don't

483
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:42,060
have a biased uh, uh, concept.

484
00:33:42,490 --> 00:33:45,930
And I think that it's, when you're
having a conversation with a person,

485
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,965
when you get three questions deep in
a conversation, that's when you get

486
00:33:50,965 --> 00:33:55,415
to the meat and the potatoes of what
the individual thinks of, not what

487
00:33:55,415 --> 00:33:56,935
their cookie cutter responses are.

488
00:33:58,165 --> 00:34:02,675
And when that opportunity comes
up where they can show it, then it

489
00:34:03,405 --> 00:34:05,635
shows them that they can do that.

490
00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:11,634
So I believe that when people get
to a level of consciousness where

491
00:34:11,634 --> 00:34:14,715
they're helping and they're like
being able to support people,

492
00:34:14,935 --> 00:34:16,485
not force people to change.

493
00:34:16,505 --> 00:34:19,294
But supporting people in their
decision to change, because we

494
00:34:19,294 --> 00:34:20,334
can't force people to change.

495
00:34:20,334 --> 00:34:21,385
That's silly.

496
00:34:21,835 --> 00:34:24,455
If no one can force us to change, we
can't force another person to change.

497
00:34:24,725 --> 00:34:25,105
Logic.

498
00:34:25,985 --> 00:34:31,474
And so with the questions, we're able
to bring the, the, the person out and be

499
00:34:31,475 --> 00:34:36,135
able to get more information and be able
to contrast that with our own thinking

500
00:34:36,145 --> 00:34:40,675
to see where we may be faulty and where
we're on point and be able to support.

501
00:34:40,995 --> 00:34:45,155
And if it's someone, if it's a heated
conversation, like, if it's someone

502
00:34:45,165 --> 00:34:51,535
wild about whatever their thing is, in
that case, like, ask more questions.

503
00:34:51,695 --> 00:34:53,055
Just listen and ask more questions.

504
00:34:53,055 --> 00:34:59,475
Because when we ask more questions,
then they have to substantiate.

505
00:34:59,475 --> 00:35:02,045
They have to reinforce
what their claims were.

506
00:35:02,605 --> 00:35:06,845
And once again, three questions in,
if they don't know the deeper details,

507
00:35:06,845 --> 00:35:09,625
they're not going to be able to, uh,
last very long in the conversation.

508
00:35:12,915 --> 00:35:13,585
That's true.

509
00:35:13,925 --> 00:35:15,124
Yeah, I like that a lot.

510
00:35:15,665 --> 00:35:21,704
You know, and, and the big part
there is when, when you do that

511
00:35:21,704 --> 00:35:26,564
instead of responding, when you
respond with a question, it makes the

512
00:35:26,564 --> 00:35:29,034
individual think a little deeper, too.

513
00:35:29,554 --> 00:35:36,285
And that actually de escalates
when you are throwing questions

514
00:35:36,285 --> 00:35:39,065
out instead of responses out.

515
00:35:39,135 --> 00:35:39,595
Big.

516
00:35:40,565 --> 00:35:46,295
You know, there, there's a lot
of people that are very unaware

517
00:35:46,315 --> 00:35:48,964
of that communication skill.

518
00:35:49,335 --> 00:35:51,734
So I, I applaud you for that.

519
00:35:52,914 --> 00:36:00,345
What, what part of the world are we
going to be part of is the big question.

520
00:36:00,355 --> 00:36:04,094
Because there's the doers and the takers.

521
00:36:05,325 --> 00:36:14,785
So I find that a lot of people making
a difference are doers and not takers.

522
00:36:15,165 --> 00:36:21,405
And what I mean by that is they're
willing to give of themselves before

523
00:36:21,405 --> 00:36:25,284
they expect anything in return.

524
00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:34,370
How can we spread more of that value
in our world with our communication

525
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:40,179
like we do here on podcasts
and on people's social media?

526
00:36:41,010 --> 00:36:46,079
Because I really think that's
where this influence starts is,

527
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:55,770
if we can control the amount of
negativity into our social sphere.

528
00:36:56,570 --> 00:37:05,960
So, how do we teach people how to be more
positive in their presentations instead of

529
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:12,830
all of the negative that we've been
witnessing over the last several years?

530
00:37:16,809 --> 00:37:18,500
Well, a couple parts on that one.

531
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,850
When it goes to the subjective
individual, don't pay attention to it.

532
00:37:23,570 --> 00:37:27,780
Because then we're out of the loop of
it, so then we're not consuming it.

533
00:37:28,050 --> 00:37:31,770
So that would be like a consumption,
being mindful of consumption

534
00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:33,170
rather than mindlessly scrolling.

535
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,350
Finding something to have
mindfulness rather than mindlessness.

536
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:42,370
Uh, so that would be
the, on the subjective.

537
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:45,950
And I believe that if someone was like,
if someone was spending less time on

538
00:37:45,950 --> 00:37:48,759
their phone and they were doing other
things, they're just going to happen

539
00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:52,020
across being a more positive, I believe.

540
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:59,145
And then from the macro, uh, from
the macro, I'm actually, I think

541
00:37:59,145 --> 00:38:00,645
I might challenge you on this one.

542
00:38:00,705 --> 00:38:02,964
I have an, this is an interesting
thought is popping up.

543
00:38:03,564 --> 00:38:12,135
I would not want to control anything on
it because that would be the exact same

544
00:38:12,145 --> 00:38:18,300
thing as, so both all negative and all
positive on the extremes are delusion.

545
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:20,370
That's my thought.

546
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:23,870
So if everything, if everything
was catered to positivity, then

547
00:38:23,870 --> 00:38:25,590
we'd be ignorant of the negativity.

548
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:27,549
And if we're only seeing the
negativity, then we're going to

549
00:38:27,549 --> 00:38:29,340
be ignorant of the positivity.

550
00:38:30,570 --> 00:38:36,640
And yeah, and I think that that,
that is a, it's a challenge.

551
00:38:36,930 --> 00:38:40,370
And so with that challenge,
then it becomes more

552
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:41,790
intentionality behind the use.

553
00:38:41,830 --> 00:38:44,710
Because I don't think that there's
anything, I don't think a tool is

554
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:49,440
inherently negative or positive, it's the
practitioner behind the use of the tool.

555
00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:55,805
So we can have a hammer and if
we're standing in line at the DMV,

556
00:38:56,005 --> 00:38:59,825
holding the hammer like a phone,
that's not a proper use of the tool.

557
00:39:00,335 --> 00:39:03,894
And a tool, and that hammer could be used
to build, or it could be used to destroy.

558
00:39:05,205 --> 00:39:09,845
And so I think it's going to be
the intentionality behind, one, the

559
00:39:10,485 --> 00:39:12,444
intentions behind the person posting.

560
00:39:13,464 --> 00:39:16,275
Because they could be just negative,
and if they're negative enough,

561
00:39:16,275 --> 00:39:17,655
just like, block them, whatever.

562
00:39:18,285 --> 00:39:22,875
Uh, and then, oh, where was
I going on that other part?

563
00:39:22,885 --> 00:39:25,755
So then there's the negativity,
and then that challenge.

564
00:39:26,785 --> 00:39:30,415
It is a challenge where, then
we are more mindful behind

565
00:39:30,415 --> 00:39:31,755
what we're consuming with that.

566
00:39:32,505 --> 00:39:32,765
Yeah.

567
00:39:33,685 --> 00:39:35,354
That's how I would take that one.

568
00:39:35,355 --> 00:39:35,895
That's how I would go.

569
00:39:39,145 --> 00:39:39,385
Yeah.

570
00:39:39,385 --> 00:39:41,384
I think that's big, huge.

571
00:39:41,484 --> 00:39:45,835
You know, consuming the proper things.

572
00:39:45,945 --> 00:39:51,025
Because, you know, I do go out, I
consume on a research basis and I

573
00:39:51,025 --> 00:39:56,710
run into a lot of things that I would
not normally even put myself into.

574
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:02,870
So controlling that influence is
very, very important in our life.

575
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,639
And I, I do want to recognize
that as a very positive influence

576
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,879
on this talk for people.

577
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:13,259
Just learn to control what we consume.

578
00:40:13,259 --> 00:40:16,910
And, and that doesn't only go
with information, that goes

579
00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:19,250
with everything in our life.

580
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,400
You know, uh, everything
should have a balance.

581
00:40:24,805 --> 00:40:27,125
And our universe is balanced.

582
00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:34,965
If it's off balance, there's storms and
things to set it back in to balance.

583
00:40:35,555 --> 00:40:39,614
So, it's interesting to have
these good conversations.

584
00:40:39,615 --> 00:40:46,095
And when we challenge each other with
thoughts, it can change how we think.

585
00:40:46,405 --> 00:40:48,435
And I think that's pretty important.

586
00:40:49,525 --> 00:40:51,085
That's why I like podcasting.

587
00:40:51,085 --> 00:40:54,845
I totally agree.

588
00:40:55,705 --> 00:40:56,255
Likewise.

589
00:40:56,615 --> 00:41:00,735
Dude, I, yeah, conversations,
it's, it's beautiful.

590
00:41:00,735 --> 00:41:04,235
Because conversations, if someone is
interested in the conversation for

591
00:41:04,244 --> 00:41:10,265
the sake of conversation rather than
having a conversation to be right, then

592
00:41:10,525 --> 00:41:16,135
that's, that's a different frame, that,
that creates like a really good vibe.

593
00:41:18,465 --> 00:41:18,885
Yes.

594
00:41:19,355 --> 00:41:23,745
Yeah, because that's, that's
my way of changing the world.

595
00:41:24,125 --> 00:41:27,195
I'm not right, I, I have no clue.

596
00:41:27,255 --> 00:41:30,854
I'm, I'm here to understand my world.

597
00:41:31,134 --> 00:41:34,645
And that's what I'm looking
for is better understanding.

598
00:41:34,964 --> 00:41:39,245
And when I understand people better,
I understand my world better.

599
00:41:39,635 --> 00:41:42,375
And that's what the Dead
America Podcast is about.

600
00:41:42,745 --> 00:41:49,835
You know, we all feel dead sometimes,
but I'm here to say, It's all what

601
00:41:49,835 --> 00:41:55,205
we think, and what we consume,
and how we choose to do that.

602
00:41:56,135 --> 00:41:57,435
So, yeah.

603
00:41:57,435 --> 00:41:59,205
It's exciting what we're doing, Kyle.

604
00:41:59,505 --> 00:42:05,885
Uh, what, what, what plans do you
have for your podcast in the future?

605
00:42:08,745 --> 00:42:15,325
Well, presently, I'm taking a break from
the podcast for this year, for 2025.

606
00:42:15,925 --> 00:42:17,425
So 2024, I took a break.

607
00:42:18,345 --> 00:42:21,605
Where now I'm focusing more on being
a guest on podcasts than a host.

608
00:42:22,435 --> 00:42:29,075
And then, 2025,  six months
in I might, you know what?

609
00:42:29,094 --> 00:42:32,164
Honestly, I can't say with certainty
so I, I'm thinking that'll be

610
00:42:32,165 --> 00:42:34,215
another break month, or year, sorry.

611
00:42:34,215 --> 00:42:36,510
And then it's just
focusing on the practice.

612
00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:41,590
And developing the, well, developing
everything, just making it awesome.

613
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:47,920
Well, that, that's a good thing.

614
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,929
You know, being on podcasts,
that can actually make us a

615
00:42:52,929 --> 00:42:54,970
better podcaster in many ways.

616
00:42:55,129 --> 00:42:59,320
I enjoy, you know, going
on podcasts and speaking.

617
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,820
Because the more we speak with others,
the better we are inside of ourself.

618
00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:08,630
Because we care about what's going on.

619
00:43:09,830 --> 00:43:10,810
It's a big key.

620
00:43:11,390 --> 00:43:15,889
Do you have anything you would like to
add to our conversation today, Kyle?

621
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,369
Uh, yeah.

622
00:43:21,369 --> 00:43:24,840
I'll leave, one thing that I like
to share and it's a mantra of

623
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,745
my own that I remind myself of
very often, so I'll share it out.

624
00:43:30,285 --> 00:43:32,365
And it's to keep up the kindness.

625
00:43:32,875 --> 00:43:36,735
And uh, when I say kindness, I don't
think of it as a feeling, I don't think

626
00:43:36,735 --> 00:43:41,844
of it as an emotion, I believe that when
we see kindness, we recognize kindness.

627
00:43:42,974 --> 00:43:49,065
And by practicing kindness, by
practicing being kind, both internally

628
00:43:49,085 --> 00:43:52,855
and externally, and I would actually
argue more importantly internally,

629
00:43:52,875 --> 00:43:56,205
because then we're going to have
a better external relationship.

630
00:43:56,635 --> 00:44:00,600
When we keep up that kindness, people
are going to feel that kindness,

631
00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:01,850
they're going to give that kindness.

632
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:04,660
And the better that we can
keep up that kindness, the more

633
00:44:04,660 --> 00:44:05,530
kindness you're going to be.

634
00:44:08,810 --> 00:44:09,830
I like that a lot.

635
00:44:10,510 --> 00:44:17,650
Uh, Kyle, how can people find you
and, you know, participate with you?

636
00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:20,500
Sweet.

637
00:44:20,909 --> 00:44:26,059
Uh, on any social platforms, I'm
DapperDudeKyle, D A P P E R, Dude,

638
00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:32,290
D U D E, Kyle, K Y L E. And you can
find website links or anything there.

639
00:44:32,570 --> 00:44:36,799
Uh, Instagram is the prime one where I'll
be able to respond the quickest there.

640
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,070
And shoot me a message,
let's have a conversation.

641
00:44:45,380 --> 00:44:46,960
Heck yeah, that's what it's about.

642
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,080
I enjoyed our conversation today, Kyle.

643
00:44:51,460 --> 00:44:57,919
It's always pleasant to, you know, have
a deep conversation, get challenged

644
00:44:57,919 --> 00:45:02,629
in your own thought, and recognize
others for who and what they are.

645
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,925
And what you're doing is
very important to our world.

646
00:45:06,945 --> 00:45:12,005
And I want to say thank you for that and
thank you for being here today and sharing

647
00:45:12,005 --> 00:45:13,835
with us on the Dead America Podcast.

648
00:45:15,315 --> 00:45:16,855
Thank you very much for having me, dude.

649
00:45:16,855 --> 00:45:17,955
It was a pleasure.

650
00:45:21,655 --> 00:45:23,364
Thank you for joining us today.

651
00:45:23,985 --> 00:45:30,195
If you found this podcast enlightening,
entertaining, educational in any way,

652
00:45:30,975 --> 00:45:37,425
please share, like, subscribe, and join
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653
00:45:37,425 --> 00:45:40,785
great episode of the Dead America Podcast.

654
00:45:41,085 --> 00:45:46,570
I'm Ed Watters, your host, enjoy
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